Turn Housing Demolition on

[Solowing]

Neither systems are good, in my opinion. No one should have to have their sub locked in just to keep their house, and no one should have to settle for a single room apartment to scratch that customization itch. Everyone should have access to the interiors and exteriors of a house of any size. The systems we have now are deeply flawed and don't go far enough to give players what they want. That is my entire point at the end of the day. Other MMOs handle housing like this just fine. FF XIV does not. Largely because most of them didn't design themselves into a corner with wards that need to be added manually and clog up their servers.

#1Housing is in limited supply, if people want access to housing, if their isnt a open plot, someone house is going to have to be demolished first. (telling them to completely scrap ward housing isnt going to happen, either)

#2 You can make multiple rooms and floor out of an apt as ive shown, but lets pretend that you cant do anything like that with an apt because it doesnt suit the narrative.

#3 If they cant even increase our outdoor item slots by 5 due to the server load it would cause. How do you expect everyone to have access to exteriors? I mean Island Sanctuary is coming and you can already use potted plants indoors.

#4 I think the housing system is extremely solid, for what they tried to do. Im with you on needing 25/50 more slots for a Apt and shared access. But thats it, i think the system is fine as it is. A room is more then enough if you can get creative with it.

[Solowing]

Yes. Because people value different things and no matter how you try to "sell" it, people will find value in what they value. And if people value the permanence of a ward along with the scenery and peacocking capability.. they will not move to an instanced apartment that has none of that.

So you seek to make apts better by devaluing my house? By making Apts and Smalls indistinguishable from one another, outside of 16 slots outdoor and a demo time.

Youre saying they wont move, but looking at it, its a no brainer to swap to something that isn't going to be demolished for the same size of a small.

[Toutatis]

#2 You can make multiple rooms and floor out of an apt as ive shown, but lets pretend that you cant do anything like that with an apt because it doesnt suit the narrative.

It is still a very small space and there is no exterior, they need more slots, you can’t have tenants, no garden, no real room for utilitarian furniture unless you scrap your plans for a nice decoration, only 4 personnel npcs. Everyone I know with a house also has an apartment and an fc room. They are not a house replacement.

I mean Island Sanctuary is coming and you can already use potted plants indoors.

Because you happen to know what Island Sanctuary is? Didn’t they tell us to no not get pur hopes up? As for potted plants, you can’t grow everything and again you are using precious decoration slots which are already pretty limited.

A room is more then enough if you can get creative with it.

By the same logic, why have houses at all then? No one said you cannot be creative with an apartment. The fact is that they are still pretty small and limited in comparison to a house which is also in at least two full floors (you can add lofts too). They need to have at least one larger option for apartments.

They announce that we can own and build our house, we should be able to do so. Stop making excuses for SE’s shortfalls.

[Solowing]

It is still a very small space and there is no exterior, they need more slots, you can’t have tenants, no garden, no real room for utilitarian furniture unless you scrap your plans for a nice decoration, only 4 personnel npcs. Everyone I know with a house also has an apartment and an fc room. They are not a house replacement.

Because you happen to know what Island Sanctuary is? Didn’t they tell us to no not get pur hopes up? As for potted plants, you can’t grow everything and again you are using precious decoration slots which are already pretty limited.

By the same logic, why have houses at all then? No one said you cannot be creative with an apartment. The fact is that they are still pretty small and limited in comparison to a house which is also in at least two full floors (you can add lofts too). They need to have at least one larger option for apartments.

They announce that we can own and build our house, we should be able to do so. Stop making excuses for SE’s shortfalls.

TBH all im seeing are excuses. Yes, apts are more limited then a house, just like a Small house is limited compared to a medium. You can make a second floor and rooms to your apt, but im seeing people simply swat that to the side and saying "no"

You wanna plant things but you're not willing to work around the item limit to do so, that's not S.E problem that is YOUR problem (i can agree on increasing the item limit, but size? No, Try your luck for a house just like the rest of us.

Learn to work around the limitations, rather then saying "i dont wanna do this" and "i dont wanna do that" If i wanna get some potted plants in my apt, i can edit the design to accommodate for them, if i want utility items inside my apt, i work it into the design.

All im hearing is "I dont wanna do any of that"

[Toutatis]

TBH all im seeing are excuses. Yes, apts are more limited then a house, just like a Small house is limited compared to a medium.

you are the one making excuses for SE’s shortcomings, not me. And *sigh* I already explained it: an apartment does not have the same features as a house. Houses have the same features, it is only the quantity that varies (personally not interested in a mansion).

You can make a second floor and rooms to your apt, but im seeing people simply swat that to the side and saying "no"

no one said you can’t. I don’t know why you keep repeating this. You can add a loft in a house too.

You wanna plant things but you're not willing to work around the item limit to do so, that's not S.E problem that is YOUR problem (i can agree on increasing the item limit, but size? No, Try your luck for a house just like the rest of us.

lol you are not making any sense...now you are telling me to try to get a house...”like the rest of us”.

And yes, they should have bigger apartments. No reason not to.

Anyway, SE promotes this game saying I can own and build my own house, they should make it possible. It’s simple. If they don’t want to invest to provide sufficient wards/houses, then they should provide instanced housing and bigger apartments.

"I dont wanna do any of that"

You do have reading comprehension problems and you are full of contradictions.

So you seek to make apts better by devaluing my house?

It changes nothing for your house. Absolutely nothing. It would only allow more players to have more fun with decoration. You would also have one on top of your house!

Atm you have a house and an apartment (and possibly an fc room). Why so hostile about people wanting to access advertised content? The site in my language literally says “Build your house, individual or collective”. No one is taking anything away from you.

[Raoabolic]

You wanna plant things but you're not willing to work around the item limit to do so, that's not S.E problem that is YOUR problem (i can agree on increasing the item limit, but size? No, Try your luck for a house just like the rest of us.

Cross pollinate in an apartment and tell me how that turns out. I'll wait. :^)

[Vahlnir]

#1Housing is in limited supply, if people want access to housing, if their isnt a open plot, someone house is going to have to be demolished first. (telling them to completely scrap ward housing isnt going to happen, either)

#2 You can make multiple rooms and floor out of an apt as ive shown, but lets pretend that you cant do anything like that with an apt because it doesnt suit the narrative.

#3 If they cant even increase our outdoor item slots by 5 due to the server load it would cause. How do you expect everyone to have access to exteriors? I mean Island Sanctuary is coming and you can already use potted plants indoors.

#4 I think the housing system is extremely solid, for what they tried to do. Im with you on needing 25/50 more slots for a Apt and shared access. But thats it, i think the system is fine as it is. A room is more then enough if you can get creative with it.

Here I thought we might have been making some headway, but I was wrong. If you would have read ANY of my posts, you would have seen that I wasn't asking them to scrap the ward system. I just want them to make something better that everyone can have access to, like full instanced housing for example (No, apartments aren't what I'm talking about, but I'm pretty sure you know that, though maybe not! Either way, this is for clarity. You can't say it wasn't said. I've covered what I view as full housing in previous posts.) I also said nothing about increasing apartment slots/space or adding shared access, though I don't think I'd have a problem with either. I hope that response is adequate. Once again, you are just hearing whatever you want to hear, even if it wasn't said at all. SE doesn't need you to defend them. They're grown adults with full time jobs. They'll be okay. Yes, I read your other posts too, not just the ones that involve me. Again, for clarity.

[Midareyukki]

TBH all im seeing are excuses.
All im hearing is "I dont wanna do any of that"

Aren't you that person who refused to leave someone's "public venue" house when asked to leave and then went ballistic when people told you you were in the wrong?

Kettle, pot, all that.

[Vahlnir]

Aren't you that person who refused to leave someone's "public venue" house when asked to leave and then went ballistic when people told you you were in the wrong?

Kettle, pot, all that.

If true, that would explain an awful lot.

[Midareyukki]

If true, that would explain an awful lot.

Enjoy the soap opera that ensued.