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    At this stage of the game, there are 3 possible explanations for SE not having fixed this issue. The first is that SE either lacks the resources to fix this issue or feels that the resources required outweigh any benefits gained. The second is that SE lacks the expertise to pull apart the code (I recall someone saying that they are notoriously reluctant to resort to outside help for fixing things) and insert fixes to the housing system. The third is that SE deliberately wants housing to be a restricted commodity. None of these possibilities precludes the others. SE has not even acknowledged that there is a problem and thus all of these possibilities remain on the table. Until we get ANY acknowledgement of this issue, we are essentially perma-stuck at square one with no resolution in sight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eraden View Post
    At this stage of the game, there are 3 possible explanations for SE not having fixed this issue...
    All of those are correct, and I need to agree. I will add a fourth though...

    The Hrothgar Earless Hair excuse for housing which basically goes with Yoshi saying "well, we didn't know you wanted anything better, we heard you on the lottery idea and thought that was what you wanted and now you say it's not. Well this is very concerning." and maybe a "post what you want want he forums, and we will look at it".

    Honestly, I wish he could hire an experienced dev with a proven housing track record, someone like Emily Taylor (Domino) from EQ2's past or many others of similar star calibre to redo it and come up with something world beating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    All of those are correct, and I need to agree. I will add a fourth though...

    The Hrothgar Earless Hair excuse for housing which basically goes with Yoshi saying "well, we didn't know you wanted anything better, we heard you on the lottery idea and thought that was what you wanted and now you say it's not. Well this is very concerning." and maybe a "post what you want want he forums, and we will look at it".

    Honestly, I wish he could hire an experienced dev with a proven housing track record, someone like Emily Taylor (Domino) from EQ2's past or many others of similar star calibre to redo it and come up with something world beating.
    Shibi, if that is what the developers had concluded about the calls for a lottery, all I can say is that the level of cognitive dissonance they have demonstrated is off the charts.
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    Last edited by Eraden; 06-21-2022 at 07:36 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eraden View Post
    Shibi, if that is what the developers had concluded about the calls for a lottery, all I can say is that the level of cognitive dissonance they have demonstrated is off the charts.
    Put it on the players who said "A lottery will solve all our problems. We don't care what other players are saying about a lottery not really solving the real problem. All we care about is removing the need to placard camp. Give us a lottery and we'll be happy." So SE gave them the lottery they were asking for.

    Are they happy like they said they would be? Some are. Some aren't.

    Are the rest of us asking for a solution to the real problem happy? No, but then SE wasn't trying to address our concerns. They were just addressing the concerns of the players that didn't want to placard camp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Are the rest of us asking for a solution to the real problem happy? No, but then SE wasn't trying to address our concerns. They were just addressing the concerns of the players that didn't want to placard camp.
    The lottery is at least fair and much better than placard camping. Placard camping was the dumbest possible system. It was unhealthy and made only for people with no rl responsibilities. There is a difference between “want” and “can” placard camp.

    That being said, the lottery still doesn’t address SE’s shortcomings when it comes to the overall huge supply problem. Bidding on your dream plot near the beach is one thing, seeing your chance to be able to access certain in game content being reduced to 1/100 for a small house and probably close to 1/1000 chances in the next lottery based on pure rngis not right.
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    Last edited by Toutatis; 06-21-2022 at 11:20 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toutatis View Post
    The lottery is at least fair and much better than placard camping. Placard camping was the dumbest possible system. It was unhealthy and made only for people with no rl responsibilities. There is a difference between “want” and “can” placard camp.

    That being said, the lottery still doesn’t address SE’s shortcomings when it comes to the overall huge supply problem. Bidding on your dream plot near the beach is one thing, seeing your chance to be able to access certain in game content being reduced to 1/100 for a small house and probably close to 1/1000 chances in the next lottery based on pure rngis not right.
    Agreed and I put it on SE for thinking, if that is indeed what they did, that the Lottery by itself would be a complete fix to the housing problem. They should have known bloody well better than that. I for one am not willing to excuse such a lapse in judgement. If they have done their due diligence they have access to all sorts of data that should have made it plainly clear to them that until supply meets demand, the housing issue will not be fixed. Apartments are currently but a pale shadow of what houses are. Too claustrophobic with significantly less functionality. They also require warping (glitching) the game mechanics in order to get even a smidgeon more living space (although that applies to houses too).
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