Quote Originally Posted by Raven2014 View Post
I don't think I ever said anything about people doing outside of group content. But if they join a group as a healer, I would expect them to ... heal?



And did I say they do?



When an AOE coming up, the party is not full, and you still see Broil/Glare/Melafic going off. Or when you have to burn through your kits healing succession mechanics without any help ... I would like to hear a different explanation if you have one.




And ... that's exactly the problem? Indeed nobody is asking the healers to do that, the content definitely doesn't need the healers to do that. What, you think when tank/DPS or even healing, I prefer the healer to DPS as much as possible over keeping the group alive? In case you missed the point, the healer is doing for the shake of their parse over the group's well being, that's the point.
1- Can you provide an example where a healer needs to heal all of the time? Because I can't think of one. Maybe you're thinking of day 1 content, but I don't even think that's a good example, because no one knows what they're doing. So, maybe you're thinking about Ultimate content- no, that isn't either. So can we agree that in most groups a fair amount of time there is nothing to heal or no one to raise? So the healer does- what?? Just stare at healthbars?

2- So their can be healers who may make a poor judgement at times. OH my goodness, if I could count all the times that someone cleaved a party, dropped a TB, didn't separate adds, or spun a boss . So what? You do not suddenly assume that everyone does this or that no one can possibly, ever , ever make a bad call and design a job around that assumption.

I don't even understand your last point, again it is you the miss the whole point. No one talked to healers about any design changes- they just went ahead and did them. Healers went ahead and adapted to them as a consequence. healers want to have fun, healers want engagement, and they want to contribute to the group, in this case we heal as little as in necessary and DPS. That is what is best for everyone- this "shake your parse" may factor for some people, but for many people that's plain silly, it's just a personal improvement tool (even with its limitations).