What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

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I'm not villifying anybody specific or this thread as a whole. Just pointing out that it's creating your own faction to counter another faction. Aka tribalism.

I don't see how you couldn't? Half the people in this thread have stated how they, for example, felt drowned out or annoyed at trying to debate with people on other threads or platforms by people who all shared similar opinions. That's the exact same problem, but in reverse.

No, it's not "the exact same problem" when one group is the obvious minority. Do you realize this is the kind of reasoning people use to discredit safe spaces? I don't care about engaging the opposition. It's exhausting. I deal with people enough in real life. I want to enjoy things on the internet with people I agree with in my free time.

If people want to come in here just to argue and they're unhappy their arguments are being refuted, then they're free to go and enjoy literally any other FFXIV social media, away from the big meanies who don't like Endwalker.

You mean talking about how Zepla was wrong about this thread?

Yes. Because she is a person with a large platform and made a dismissive statement founded on nothing more than the thread title and its number of pages. Is there anything wrong with calling this out? Should we just take this lying down?

But in any case, very well done. At the exact same moment wider attention was called to this thread, you have personally managed to derail it and make it entirely about how the minority is really, really mean to the majority. Not a great look for us, indeed. Mission accomplished, huh?

Feel free to type up a response to this, I will be ignoring it. No need to drag this out any longer, I wouldn't want you to derail the thread again with a back and forth like you did with Theodric when he rightly called out the obnoxious puritanical villain-fans-are-bad part of the fandom.

Reading about Zepla's reaction really makes me wish we'd get at least ONE content creator who'd openly criticize some aspects of the game like the writing. Someone kind of like MisshapenChair who wouldn't give two fudges about angry responses to their criticism.

IMO every mainstream game needs to have at least one critique like that to give an opposing PoV.

Not familiar with streamers and youtubers myself, is there truly no one at all criticizing EW? That would honestly be a little depressing and... unsurprising.

How did we understand the Ancients fluently when we went to Elpis? When it's already established they speak an entirely different, incomprehensible-to-us language? I don't actually even remember how we understood the shades in Amaurot but I do recall they weren't literally speaking our tongue we just somehow understood what they were saying without actually understanding their language. Yet when we go to Elpis they just speak fluent modern-tongue?

There's a line I genuinely didn't get, it's when Hythlo expresses relief you talk their language. I would have thought that people back then were just "beyond" language in a way, as they presumably all had Echo powers. Why would the WoL not talking their language be an issue at all?