Has anyone quit healing?

[IDontPetLalas]

nothing short of a survey will do. enjoyment is qualitative, and the other measures are quantitative and theyre also affected by other variables.

i wouldn't dismiss population analysis out of hands, that with surveys could be quite useful since surveys are not so easy to design

[QooEr]

i wouldn't dismiss population analysis out of hands, that with surveys could be quite useful since surveys are not so easy to design

perhaps, but theres so many variables that muddy the picture. every party on duty finder *must* have a healer for instance, and even if its possible to clear with nonstandard comps the huge majority of people will use 2 healers for almost anything on PF that isnt a complete faceroll. adventurer in need is infamous for being wrong. subs are affected by so many factors that unsubbing because of healers alone would be practically impossible to point out. levels also dont mean much from the amount of people who just level things once for completion, etc.

i do wonder what quantitative metric could work for gauging healer enjoyment. queue times? PF fill times? perhaps something like luckybancho's main weapon ilvl? but the devs would have to be tracking every players armory chest for that to work, since just scanning lodestone pages like luckybancho is extremely prone to getting things wrong.

[IDontPetLalas]

perhaps, but theres so many variables that muddy the picture. every party on duty finder *must* have a healer for instance, and even if its possible to clear with nonstandard comps the huge majority of people will use 2 healers for almost anything on PF that isnt a complete faceroll. adventurer in need is infamous for being wrong. subs are affected by so many factors that unsubbing because of healers alone would be practically impossible to point out. levels also dont mean much from the amount of people who just level things once for completion, etc.

i do wonder what quantitative metric could work for gauging healer enjoyment. queue times? PF fill times? perhaps something like luckybancho's main weapon ilvl? but the devs would have to be tracking every players armory chest for that to work, since just scanning lodestone pages like luckybancho is extremely prone to getting things wrong.

Well, I wouldn't say that it would *muddy* the picture, all of the other roles are also required as well. So it's more a question (and what you call muddying is maybe my just saying yes, some of that needs to be considered) A population survey looks at things like how many people are specific levels in a levels in a certain role, and may extend that to have completed certain content, have logged in since whatever time period under that role, have whatever gear equipped, etc, etc. So that population survey would then indicate some of the factors you just mentioned , since you'd see how many healers are likely just levelled and left in low gear and never run through anything. Then you'd want to look at trends- over time, and between healing jobs.

Survey on the other hand - you have to be quite careful on what the intent of the survey is and the wording, both to make the questions clear, and - depending on the type of the survey - not to introduce bias.So even if you ask what looks to be a simple question like "is your main healing job a healer"- often you'll see a definition added such as - "where a main is the job that you're on at least ......amount of time" to improve the quality of the survey results (hopefully).