Hrothgar Feedback Thread

[Midareyukki]

I remember all hrothgar deaths and the one about the hound doesn't ring a bell. When did that one happen o-o?

We also had 1 "female hroth" death off screen, magnus's wife who people are theorizing to be storg. But you are right about the deaths. We get plenty of them in XIV, but I dont think any of them have been nearly as gruesome as Hrothgar's (Ahewan's death aside....and tesleen). If another race is killed, either they're killed quickly in an almost painless fashion or its implied, off screen that they were killed

NGL, I dont exactly remember the death about the hrothgar being eaten alive by a hound. Was that in

Zadnor. One of the FATEs starts with Hrothgar being eaten alive by a Cerberus-type mob. As in, just before the FATE actually starts, you see an animated scene where a three-headed hound chomps on some Hrothgars. And that's when the FATE then starts.
Same as another FATE where they're turned into Archaeodemons from FF Tactics by the Puppetmaster.
The only time violence against people in Bozja isn't overtly directed at Hrothgar or the Blades is the prisoner bit before fighting Adrammelech in Castrum Lacus Litore.
And again, that's to say nothing of Delubrum's deal with the Blades nor the Dabog Fates.

Yes, I remember Valens van Varro... being so cartoonishly evil and a clear hate-sink I questioned why Square was escalating on the gratuitous violence. But in Zadnor, particularly after Delubrum, they started displaying it so graphically for no reason. A couple children was already in bad taste, and it only served to make people wish Valens a death as quick as possible.

But the whole of Bozja is like this, just on and on. And while Valens does have an ending, Bozja is made clear that things aren't over, and all the ones involved apart from Gilbrisbert get away with it scot-free.

Edit: I might be wrong on the creature. I may be saying it's Cerberus-looking creature but that might be false. I'll hop onto Zadnor and Bozja to try and see if it spawns. I know it exists though. It even has a sound effect when they get munched. If so, I'll correct myself.

No lie. I just watched it. A "pop" and "liquid" dripping doesn't really sound gruesome to me, but you are right that it ultimately detracts from the overall criticism

It doesn't just because you don't remember those FATEs.

Intensity is the problem here. And the fact that it's done so repetitively and so gruesomely is an escalation in intensity.

Because sure! We've had gratuitous violence before, with people being stabbed and all the deal with Tesleen and whatnot. But it wasn't so concurrent and ever-present. Nor was it constantly targetted. Because otherwise I wouldn't have a problem. But all the victims SHOWN to us are Hrothgar. And that's what I'm referring to.

"Oh but it's Bozja and it's a warzone, it's natural Hrothgar would be shown".

We've had content with stuff like this before, it wasn't ever displayed this graphically. At least not of a playable race. And Bozja isn't home only to Hrothgar. We have Roegadyn and Highlander NPCs. Yet none of them meet such an animated fate on-screen. Hrothgars do.