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    Vuk Varvarasch
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    Good opening arguments, I just hope they reach the ears of the developers.

    I do sincerely hope that we will some day, and hopefully we're not talking years here, have decent new hair options that we can freely swap between. I also feel the developers should take the time to fix all helmets and headgear in the game to work for us. And at the very least make sure that any new pieces they add are usable by all the player races. If they can't do that, then give us some alternative rewards when you insist on giving out headgear in seasonal events. It really sucks when an event reward turns out to be completely useless for us.

    Besides the already extensively covered topics of hair and helmets, I'd also like more representation. I think I saw a total of one Hrothgar NPC in all of EW. Not even when the support from Bozja arrived was there any Hrothgars present. The only place we seem to be remembered is in the store preview images. In game we barely even exist, and that is something I feel the developers need to handle better from this point forward. Beast races might not be the most popular of player races, but surely our limitations and lack of presence in the world plays a part of this as well.

    Other than that, I do wish we could get some love from the animators. The hunchback pose really does not fit us, when our bodies are basically just large human bodies with animal heads. It works for Charr in Guild Wars 2 because they have vastly different anatomy. We do not, so it just looks weird.

    An extra sitting pose that looks a bit more relaxed would also be great. The currently existing relaxed one with one foot over the knee just does not work with my glam at all, so I always end up either intently staring into the table, or sitting unnaturally straight up and down.
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    I hope they bring Lovro aan Slanasch back, the redmage master that was tempered, rescused and, hopefull cured. He's one of the few hrothgars that survived zadnor...
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    I always find Bozja funny - the overall storyline was cut short, but that's for another topic - in regards to the implementation of hrothgar and viera. It doesn't really go too in depth on hrothgar lore, rather it's just a backdrop, but the fact that they used a female roe to represent the hrothgar queen. It would have been the perfect opportunity to reveal female hrothgar. They did male viera instead. Hilarious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    I always find Bozja funny - the overall storyline was cut short, but that's for another topic - in regards to the implementation of hrothgar and viera. It doesn't really go too in depth on hrothgar lore, rather it's just a backdrop, but the fact that they used a female roe to represent the hrothgar queen. It would have been the perfect opportunity to reveal female hrothgar. They did male viera instead. Hilarious.
    Oh I was so disappointed when they retconned the Bozja queen as a Femhroth. You are right, that was the PERFECT opportunity for that, but ugh...they copped out
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akimori View Post
    Oh I was so disappointed when they retconned the Bozja queen as a Femhroth. You are right, that was the PERFECT opportunity for that, but ugh...they copped out
    I guess it would have been too much for them to actually make a unique model, or settle on a femhroth concept?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    I guess it would have been too much for them to actually make a unique model, or settle on a femhroth concept?
    If they did, then they wouldnt have an excuse to not have FemHroths finished.
    Im not pleased with the FemRoe replacement, but I think there would be a decent uproar if they showed off a FemHroth and tell us we cant play one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    If they did, then they wouldnt have an excuse to not have FemHroths finished.
    Im not pleased with the FemRoe replacement, but I think there would be a decent uproar if they showed off a FemHroth and tell us we cant play one.
    I kind of doubt there would be much of an uproar. Female hrothgar aren't very popular, and even eventually made playable they won't be popular. Regardless, they can include a female hrothgar NPC and still not include them as playable. They were completely fine putting out the hairs they did for male hroths, and even with all the uproar that actually caused, to this day they largely seem to be ignored. So even if there was an "uproar" for there being a female hrothgar npc, and the race still being unplayable, I seriously doubt they would have any issue with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    I always find Bozja funny - the overall storyline was cut short, but that's for another topic - in regards to the implementation of hrothgar and viera. It doesn't really go too in depth on hrothgar lore, rather it's just a backdrop, but the fact that they used a female roe to represent the hrothgar queen. It would have been the perfect opportunity to reveal female hrothgar. They did male viera instead. Hilarious.
    The fact that ''Misija Votyasch'' is a hrothgar name makes it hurt more.
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    I do think one thing to remember with Zadnor and Bozja is that the writer is not the normal writer for XIV, but instead the writer for Ivalice, Yasumi Matsuno. A lot of the small references in Bozja and Zadnor are references to Tactics Ogre. Wind Caller is one big one, along with the Archeodemon Fate which has Hrothgars being turned into Archeodemons by Gilbrisbert being also a reference to an event in Tactics Ogre. We knew the story was going to be kinda... dark. it was just darker than expected. Eldritch abomination levels of dark. It was the perfect chance to reveal female hrothgar, even if they were just an NPC, Like how Viera were introduced in SB.
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    Modders care more about Viera, Hrothgar, Highlander and Roegadyn than the devs do.

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    iirc they literally altered the head models
    i don't remember these horns being rotated so harshly even with this haircut
    the base of these horns are literally sticking out



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    Last edited by VirusOnline; 06-14-2022 at 09:44 AM.

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