Housing sucks rn!

[Arlythe]

That was from days of old with an elderly systemadn set of rules, doubt that SE would Anti-Grandfather them.

I don't know, you tell me
https://twitter.com/GRYMMFFXIV/statu...97168346087424

[Shibi]

I don't know, you tell me
https://twitter.com/GRYMMFFXIV/statu...97168346087424

I mean, you are not even on Spriggan, so even if SE decided to remove something someone got while it was in the rules, it wouldn't make any difference to you at all.

Worry about Odin, instead.

And instead of seeking to punish other people for what they did inside the rules at the time, push SE to improve housing instead.

[Arlythe]

I mean, you are not even on Spriggan, so even if SE decided to remove something someone got while it was in the rules, it wouldn't make any difference to you at all.

Worry about Odin, instead.

And instead of seeking to punish other people for what they did inside the rules at the time, push SE to improve housing instead.

I'm sorry if I didn't make that clear. I wouldn't like them to get punished as well. And just because it is on another server, it doesn't make my argument less valid, because there IS a huge problem for player housing and apparently it always has been.
If I had anything to say about this particular matter, I would've changed the rules so that you can't have more than 1 FC house +1 player character house on your account and then refund the person who's owning an entire ward.
It may be harsh to that one person (Even if it was more people owning entire wards all across all data centers) but I think overall it would make for a better experience for all involved if they just went to those people and say "You know what, you get to decide one FC and one player house to keep and we'll refund you the rest".
Also, i think they should've made 24 FC wards and 24 player wards to even it out.

[geekgirl101]

I don't know, you tell me
https://twitter.com/GRYMMFFXIV/statu...97168346087424

SE needs to develop a pair of round things to be able to confront these kinds of people and say to them "I don't CARE if you bought them before we put in the 1 house per server rule or if you own 60 accounts to get around the rules, you get to keep 1 house ONLY!" I seem to recall before they put in the 1 house per server rule they announced that those who already had multiple houses would get informed ingame that they needed to pick which house they would keep and the rest would be demolished. They should've held their ground and went ahead with that plan.

Whilst the few who selfishly own entire wards for themselves or are using them to flip at higher value to desperate FC's are a problem it's not going to fix the problem altogether that there are just far too few estates for all players to have their own personal houses. As I and several others have stated several times houses should NEVER have become personal and that sad excuse of an apartment for personal housing is too weak. Yeah let's stick a chocobo stable outside but give players no means to grow the onions outside of buying seeds at extortionate value off the MB by players who have houses and gardens to produce them.

[LaylaTsarra]

SE needs to develop a pair of round things to be able to confront these kinds of people and say to them "I don't CARE if you bought them before we put in the 1 house per server rule, you get to keep 1 house ONLY" I seem to recall before they put in the 1 house per server rule they announced that those who already had multiple houses would get informed in game that they needed to pick which house they would keep and the rest would be demolished. They should've held their ground and went ahead with that plan. SE are too soft.

Whilst the few who selfishly own entire wards for themselves or are using them to flip at higher value to desperate FC's are a problem it's not going to fix the problem altogether that there are just far too few estates for all players to have their own personal houses. As I and several others have stated several times houses should NEVER have become personal and that sad excuse of an apartment for personal housing is too weak. Yeah let's stick a chocobo stable outside but give players no means to grow the onions outside of buying seeds at extortionate value off the MB by players who have houses and gardens to produce them.

They never said that. Please don't spread misinformation. The one house per server rule works fine for privates it's FC's they need to fix.

[Jojoya]

The one house per server rule works fine for privates it's FC's they need to fix.

Not really. If the game has 2 million active accounts as some estimate but only 525,600 houses, that's already almost 1.5 million accounts that won't be able to get a house.

If FCs own 30% of the available houses, that increases the number of accounts that can't get a house to over 1.6 million.

For every personal house over one that a player owns on their account (even if on different servers), that's one less player able to get a house. True it's a relatively small number compared to the unmet demand yet it's still helping to increase it.

I'm not blaming the players who are playing by the rules. It's human nature to take advantage of what opportunities we're allowed and owning multiple houses per service account is allowed by SE.

I blame SE not creating a system that would either prevent players from owning more than one house or would allow every player the opportunity to own multiple houses if they desired.

Sometimes I wish RIFT had more to offer than just a great housing system. There was a very active housing-focused community there despite it being 100% instanced because every player who wanted to own multiple Dimensions to decorate could have them. No one said "but muh empty neighborhoods - don't add moar housing for others so muh empty neighborhoods can keep feeling special".

[LaylaTsarra]

If FCs own 30% of the available houses, that increases the number of accounts that can't get a house to over 1.6 million.

It's the multiple FC ownership that needs to be fixed. How they do that I don't know. And yes it's a overall supply issue eliminating FC abuse won't fix the overall problem because in spite of that there won't be enough houses for everyone.

People playing by the rules shouldn't be penalized however they need to insure the rules allow for the intent of one personal and one FC per server and that's not happening. In addition to that they need to find a way to either massively increase the number of wards or find a way to implement instanced housing alongside the current ward structure.