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  1. #1
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    Silverbane's Avatar
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    Z'nnah Silverbane
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaeveHatesHousing View Post
    i am paying the same amount as someone with a large size house, but i dont have access to the joy of an outdoor space i can decorate.
    And I am paying the same amount as the people with the rare hard-to-get mounts, but don't have access to the joy of showing off any rare hard-to-get mounts.

    And I am paying the same amount as the people with the glamour drops from some of the harder dungeons, but don't have access to the joy of showing off those glamour drops.

    Housing, like some mounts and glam in this game, is one of the things you earn in-game -- by hard work, by luck, or by a combination of both. Getting it isn't guaranteed by your subscription agreement, and never has been.
    And that's the deal you agreed to when you signed up.
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    Oriana Alesong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    And I am paying the same amount as the people with the rare hard-to-get mounts, but don't have access to the joy of showing off any rare hard-to-get mounts.

    And I am paying the same amount as the people with the glamour drops from some of the harder dungeons, but don't have access to the joy of showing off those glamour drops.

    Housing, like some mounts and glam in this game, is one of the things you earn in-game -- by hard work, by luck, or by a combination of both. Getting it isn't guaranteed by your subscription agreement, and never has been.
    And that's the deal you agreed to when you signed up.
    But there's a big difference. You can farm mounts. You can run the harder dungeons if you take the time to unlock them. You can join statics or use PF and raid 24/7. What you can't do is buy the house you want because there's a built in scarcity.

    It's like saying you have the ilvl to raid, but the game will only allow you to fight one encounter every nine days, and if you clear the encounter there will be an increasingly lower chance of loot dropping for you every cycle. Right now my odds at getting "loot" in the upcoming cycle is 0%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brygd View Post
    But there's a big difference. You can farm mounts.
    You mean, invest time and effort doing a dungeon again and again and again on the off chance that maybe the mount will drop, and maybe you'll get it? Sounds a lot like entering the housing lottery to me, except entering a housing lottery takes a much smaller investment of time.
    Quote Originally Posted by Brygd View Post
    You can run the harder dungeons if you take the time to unlock them.
    Not everyone can do the hardest dungeons, either because of hardware limitations (e.g. bad ping), time limitations (e.g. they don't have enough time to spend on the game to get gud, get into a static, and farm the content), or physical limitations (e.g. palsey). But everyone with the gil can enter the housing lottery, and gil is easy to get in this game.
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    Rhela Tsurugi
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    You mean, invest time and effort doing a dungeon again and again and again on the off chance that maybe the mount will drop, and maybe you'll get it? Sounds a lot like entering the housing lottery to me, except entering a housing lottery takes a much smaller investment of time.

    Not everyone can do the hardest dungeons, either because of hardware limitations (e.g. bad ping), time limitations (e.g. they don't have enough time to spend on the game to get gud, get into a static, and farm the content), or physical limitations (e.g. palsey). But everyone with the gil can enter the housing lottery, and gil is easy to get in this game.
    This stupid argument again. There is no limit to the number of people who can run dungeons/raids etc. Everyone can do the content, and if they have issues clearing, you can get better at playing the game so that you can clear the content. Housing has a limit to the number of people who can even do the system. There will always be a large portion of the player base who cannot interact with the system because of the artificial limit that SE put on it through wards. Yes I can try to interact with it but beyond the RNG of winning a lottery I have no way to improve myself, get better gear, etc. to make it so I can actually complete content and get rewards. It is 100% RNG on whether you can interact with the housing system vs you can always interact with the dungeons/raids and it's on you and your skill whether you can clear it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amenara View Post
    Yes I can try to interact with it but beyond the RNG of winning a lottery I have no way to improve myself ...
    Sure you can. Level alts. My spouse won her house this time by placing three bids on it, one for each character she has on that world.
    Oh, and of course, you can also have characters on other worlds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    Sure you can. Level alts. My spouse won her house this time by placing three bids on it, one for each character she has on that world.
    Oh, and of course, you can also have characters on other worlds.
    And you missed the point again. It is always RNG if you are bidding against anyone else. There will always be people who have a house and those who can't get one because of RNG.
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    Chadhadai Oronir
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    Sure you can. Level alts. My spouse won her house this time by placing three bids on it, one for each character she has on that world.
    Oh, and of course, you can also have characters on other worlds.
    "Just level up your Luck stat" lmfao
    gotta be kidding me with this
    people really are out here acting like getting lucky took skill
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