Opt out of housing in game

[MaeveHatesHousing]

You're exaggerating the situation. No one is locked out of housing right now, not even on Balmung (at least for the time being, I'm sure that will change in a couple of months). Apartments are housing.

There are players unable to get a house but from seeing the entry numbers that have been floating around in the forums since the lottery started, the percentage of players who want a house but are unable to seems to be closer to 25-30% (still bad) and not 90%. Players always forgot to include players who already have a house and ignore that some of those entry counts include players attempting to relocate.

It's rather ridiculous to ask for a housing free mode when you could get an apartment and store the majority of the housing items you get as quest rewards and loot drops there. It's only a handful of outdoor furnishings received as such rewards that you are not able to use.

apartments are a vastly inferior version of housing. so no. they are not exaggerating.

i have an apartment.
i have an FC room.

neither of them do what i want, or have enough item space for me to do what i want.

so no. its not unreasonable to ask that the development team either *do their damn job* and find a solution to 90% of the player base being unable to participate in a system. or provide a way to not interact with that system for a cheaper sub. since i am paying the same amount as someone with a large size house, but i dont have access to the joy of an outdoor space i can decorate.

[Silverbane]

i am paying the same amount as someone with a large size house, but i dont have access to the joy of an outdoor space i can decorate.

And I am paying the same amount as the people with the rare hard-to-get mounts, but don't have access to the joy of showing off any rare hard-to-get mounts.

And I am paying the same amount as the people with the glamour drops from some of the harder dungeons, but don't have access to the joy of showing off those glamour drops.

Housing, like some mounts and glam in this game, is one of the things you earn in-game -- by hard work, by luck, or by a combination of both. Getting it isn't guaranteed by your subscription agreement, and never has been.
And that's the deal you agreed to when you signed up.

[Brygd]

And I am paying the same amount as the people with the rare hard-to-get mounts, but don't have access to the joy of showing off any rare hard-to-get mounts.

And I am paying the same amount as the people with the glamour drops from some of the harder dungeons, but don't have access to the joy of showing off those glamour drops.

Housing, like some mounts and glam in this game, is one of the things you earn in-game -- by hard work, by luck, or by a combination of both. Getting it isn't guaranteed by your subscription agreement, and never has been.
And that's the deal you agreed to when you signed up.

But there's a big difference. You can farm mounts. You can run the harder dungeons if you take the time to unlock them. You can join statics or use PF and raid 24/7. What you can't do is buy the house you want because there's a built in scarcity.

It's like saying you have the ilvl to raid, but the game will only allow you to fight one encounter every nine days, and if you clear the encounter there will be an increasingly lower chance of loot dropping for you every cycle. Right now my odds at getting "loot" in the upcoming cycle is 0%.

[Silverbane]

But there's a big difference. You can farm mounts.

You mean, invest time and effort doing a dungeon again and again and again on the off chance that maybe the mount will drop, and maybe you'll get it? Sounds a lot like entering the housing lottery to me, except entering a housing lottery takes a much smaller investment of time.

You can run the harder dungeons if you take the time to unlock them.

Not everyone can do the hardest dungeons, either because of hardware limitations (e.g. bad ping), time limitations (e.g. they don't have enough time to spend on the game to get gud, get into a static, and farm the content), or physical limitations (e.g. palsey). But everyone with the gil can enter the housing lottery, and gil is easy to get in this game.

[Amenara]

You mean, invest time and effort doing a dungeon again and again and again on the off chance that maybe the mount will drop, and maybe you'll get it? Sounds a lot like entering the housing lottery to me, except entering a housing lottery takes a much smaller investment of time.

Not everyone can do the hardest dungeons, either because of hardware limitations (e.g. bad ping), time limitations (e.g. they don't have enough time to spend on the game to get gud, get into a static, and farm the content), or physical limitations (e.g. palsey). But everyone with the gil can enter the housing lottery, and gil is easy to get in this game.

This stupid argument again. There is no limit to the number of people who can run dungeons/raids etc. Everyone can do the content, and if they have issues clearing, you can get better at playing the game so that you can clear the content. Housing has a limit to the number of people who can even do the system. There will always be a large portion of the player base who cannot interact with the system because of the artificial limit that SE put on it through wards. Yes I can try to interact with it but beyond the RNG of winning a lottery I have no way to improve myself, get better gear, etc. to make it so I can actually complete content and get rewards. It is 100% RNG on whether you can interact with the housing system vs you can always interact with the dungeons/raids and it's on you and your skill whether you can clear it.

[Silverbane]

Yes I can try to interact with it but beyond the RNG of winning a lottery I have no way to improve myself ...

Sure you can. Level alts. My spouse won her house this time by placing three bids on it, one for each character she has on that world.
Oh, and of course, you can also have characters on other worlds.

[Amenara]

Sure you can. Level alts. My spouse won her house this time by placing three bids on it, one for each character she has on that world.
Oh, and of course, you can also have characters on other worlds.

And you missed the point again. It is always RNG if you are bidding against anyone else. There will always be people who have a house and those who can't get one because of RNG.

[Avoidy]

Sure you can. Level alts. My spouse won her house this time by placing three bids on it, one for each character she has on that world.
Oh, and of course, you can also have characters on other worlds.

"Just level up your Luck stat" lmfao
gotta be kidding me with this
people really are out here acting like getting lucky took skill

[Jojoya]

apartments are a vastly inferior version of housing. so no. they are not exaggerating.

i have an apartment.
i have an FC room.

neither of them do what i want, or have enough item space for me to do what i want.

so no. its not unreasonable to ask that the development team either *do their damn job* and find a solution to 90% of the player base being unable to participate in a system. or provide a way to not interact with that system for a cheaper sub. since i am paying the same amount as someone with a large size house, but i dont have access to the joy of an outdoor space i can decorate.

Yes, they're still exaggerating. It's not 90% of the player base that is locked out of houses, let alone housing.

I also never said we should let the developers off the hook for the housing situation. I've been here for the last 4 years asking them to fix the system so every player that wants a house can get one.

The OP is still being petulant when they ask for a house-free mode when there are some options available, even if those options are not as good as owning a house directly. Apartments, having a friend add him as a tenant to their house, even starting up a shell FC to get a house in a FC ward like so many other players have decided to do.

And I am paying the same amount as the people with the rare hard-to-get mounts, but don't have access to the joy of showing off any rare hard-to-get mounts.

And I am paying the same amount as the people with the glamour drops from some of the harder dungeons, but don't have access to the joy of showing off those glamour drops.

Housing, like some mounts and glam in this game, is one of the things you earn in-game -- by hard work, by luck, or by a combination of both. Getting it isn't guaranteed by your subscription agreement, and never has been.
And that's the deal you agreed to when you signed up.

Other than the seasonal ranked PvP rewards in the game, there are no other rewards that have a hard limit in quantity so players are blocked from access by other players already having those rewards.

A house is the exception, and that's really unacceptable in a game that's trying to create a positive game experience for players.