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    Why is what Hien did in the steppe that much worse than convincing Ishgard to get involved in the war against Garlemald?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReynTime View Post
    Why is what Hien did in the steppe that much worse than convincing Ishgard to get involved in the war against Garlemald?
    We didn’t take over their main form of government in order to induce them to fight in a dangerous war without direct political gain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tokinokanatae View Post
    We didn’t take over their main form of government in order to induce them to fight in a dangerous war without direct political gain.
    You murdered the archbishop of Ishgard.
    In the steppe you participated in a ritual that you were explicitly allowed in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReynTime View Post
    You murdered the archbishop of Ishgard.
    In the steppe you participated in a ritual that you were explicitly allowed in.
    The archbishop was a nutcase that was planning on becoming a god and ruling over the entire world forever. We didn’t kill him because he stood in the way of adding Ishgard to the alliance against Garlemald.

    We’re also allowed to meet privately with many heads of State. That doesn’t make it okay for us to beat up Kan-E-Senna, insert a padjal puppet government that’s willing to declare war on the Elementals, and then moonwalk completely out of the area when we’ve gotten what we wanted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tokinokanatae View Post
    We’re also allowed to meet privately with many heads of State. That doesn’t make it okay for us to beat up Kan-E-Senna, insert a padjal puppet government that’s willing to declare war on the Elementals, and then moonwalk completely out of the area when we’ve gotten what we wanted.
    But that scenario would constitute a breach of trust. With the Naadam everyone agreed to the rules.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teraq View Post
    But that scenario would constitute a breach of trust. With the Naadam everyone agreed to the rules.
    So we told the other participants outside the Mol they would be expected to fight and die for another country if we won? I must have missed that scene.
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