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    Quote Originally Posted by dspguy View Post
    You know, the war between North Korea and South Korea isn't over either. They are in a perpetual stalemate.
    Which means no lives are actively lost and no livelyhoods are threatened, which would make it not reason to suspend demolition. To compare this with the situation in Europe right now is ridiculous. But to give a more accurate comparison: When Crimea was invaded and annexed, housing demolition wasn't suspended either, since it was not an ongoing conflict. It was a cold conflict, kind of like the Korean war at the moment. Problem is, that war now turned hot.

    But even if the situations were comparable, which they are not, it is besides the point anyway, since Korea has its own servers, with its own patch cycle, shop, etc., same as China, sectioned off from the rest of the world and their version of the game. Even if you wanted to, with an NA/EU/JP/OCE service account, you can not play the Chinese or Korean versions of the game, or vice versa.
    Meanwhile, JP, EU, NA and OCE share a common version of the game, have access to all the DCs and hence are in the same boat when it comes to demolition suspension, since people do play on DCs outside of their home region if they can.
    If the Korean war suddenly turned hot as well, then Square would have to look into housing demolition suspension on the Korean version of the game.

    Therefore, this arguent...
    Quote Originally Posted by dspguy View Post
    The precedent Square Enix has set will always beg the question: If SE shut off the auto-demo timer for X, then why not for Y?
    ...is ridiculous and you know it.

    Quote Originally Posted by dspguy View Post
    Remove the timer entirely and change the system so all players can have housing going forward.
    On this though, I wholeheartedly agree.
    People wouldn't make these threads where they graps at straws to argue that people in trouble don't deserve a break if they weren't desperate for other people to lose their houses so they can have a shot at it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KuroMaboroshi View Post
    Which means no lives are actively lost and no livelyhoods are threatened, which would make it not reason to suspend demolition. < snipped >

    But even if the situations were comparable, which they are not, it is besides the point anyway, since Korea has its own servers, < snipped >
    Missed the forest for the trees.

    I think you zeroed in on Korea. That wasn't the point.

    Here is a short history of auto-demolition being suspended. It is not exhaustive. Just what was easily searchable:
    • Auto-demoltion added in Nov 2015
    • 2016 - Suspended for a natural disaster (earthquake)
    • 2017 - Suspended for a natural disaster (hurricane)
    • 2018 - Suspended for a natural disaster (hurricane)
    • 2018 - Suspended for a natural disaster (typhoon, which is a Pacific Ocean hurricane)
    • 2019 - Suspended for a natural disaster (typhoon)
    • 2020 - Suspended for a global pandemic
    • 2021 - Suspended for the Russia/Ukraine war

    Frankly, I don't think my earlier statements were far off the mark. Maybe Korea was tongue and cheek. Mind you, these are all tragic on different levels. I do think my argument is legit.

    How can they NOT justify stopping the timer for war if they are stopping it off for a hurricane?

    If they suspended it for X (earthquake) why not for Y (hurricane)? If for Y (hurricane) why not Z (regional war)? Honestly, from a pure standpoint of global events that effects a lot of people, all these refugees produced by ongoing unrest in the Middle East as well as in Ukraine will have much longer and far reaching effects than a hurricane that caused localized damaged. They should just keep it off indefinitely***.

    Will they stop it if the US goes into a recession? Players can't afford their internet to play the game - I guess top the timer if that happens.

    Just saying
    (Your argument) is ridiculous and you know it.
    Doesn't make it true. I think it is backed up very nicely.

    ***What was the purpose of the auto-demolition timer? To free up houses that are unused by players as part of the effort to provide housing to active players. If they are going to keep it off indefinitely or for as infrequently as they have been, then the timer isn't doing its job and they need another solution.
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