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    Quote Originally Posted by Neoyoshi View Post
    What is house demolition?

    I'm just curious because i assumed people lose their houses and they go back on the market if people do not log in and enter their house for a set period of time.
    Exactly that.

    There is a timer that triggers if you do not enter your house (as in actually go in the door) for a long period of time. It gives you warnings (ingame and email) after about 35 days and then if you STILL do not enter your house at 45 days, all your stuff that is possible to be removed is "stored" with a NPC in the housing district (everything else is destroyed) and your lot goes back up for sale. I also believe you are refunded a fraction of the houses Gil cost from the same NPC. The recovery of your items has a expiry date as well, so if you lose your house and then do not retrieve the stored contents and gil, you will eventually lose that too.

    It's just called demolition.

    Right now though that timer has been paused.. as the thread laments... because of world issues potentially causing people to be unable to login or play games.
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    Last edited by Krotoan; 06-23-2022 at 10:14 AM.
    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

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    Auto Demolition should definitely be resumed by now. When I read that it was happening in the first place I thought it was a joke
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    Quote Originally Posted by localareanetwork View Post
    Auto Demolition should definitely be resumed by now. When I read that it was happening in the first place I thought it was a joke
    Auto demolition resumes. Players who were taking advantage of it log back into game and reset their demolition timers.

    After 6 weeks, 15 houses appear all at once in the lottery with 7 of them in FC wards that still haven't filled up.

    Your entry number 145 on one of those remaining 8 houses loses to entry number 107. Now all the available houses are gone again.

    What next?

    Resuming auto demolition is going to have a negligible effect on the supply problem. Wouldn't it be better for SE to fix the supply so we don't really care whether demolition is active (assuming it would even be needed anymore?)/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Auto demolition resumes. Players who were taking advantage of it log back into game and reset their demolition timers.

    After 6 weeks, 15 houses appear all at once in the lottery with 7 of them in FC wards that still haven't filled up.

    Your entry number 145 on one of those remaining 8 houses loses to entry number 107. Now all the available houses are gone again.

    What next?

    Resuming auto demolition is going to have a negligible effect on the supply problem. Wouldn't it be better for SE to fix the supply so we don't really care whether demolition is active (assuming it would even be needed anymore?)/
    Well it's still better than nothing, right? If people are resubbing to FFXIV I don't see how that's bad for Square Enix.
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    At this point, Square should either commit to addressing the supply issue with more wards planned on a concrete date in the future, or just commit fully to the status quo and turn on demolition again.

    I hate demolition. I think it's stupid and nonsensical. But it's the only mitigating factor this current system has. Right now Square is half-implementing a housing system that relies on a revolving door effect that isn't happening because homes owned by inactive accounts aren't being relinquished. So either fix the gridlock by introducing more wards, or stop half assing your current system and just bring back demolition and cut down on this fc-only nonsense so your current system can begin to function even a little bit. There'll still be gridlock and shortages (which is why increasing the supply with more wards is a better solution) but it'll be better than nothing if this is really all we can get. For me, adding more wards is infinitely preferable.

    That being said, I'm genuinely curious why they've been able to add new wards before, but now people want to act like it's an impossibility when it's brought up. I sure hope in their next live letter, the 2 billion dollar company talks about this so random fanboys can stop speaking on their behalf about their technical limitations.
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    Last edited by Avoidy; 06-29-2022 at 03:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avoidy View Post
    Right now Square is half-implementing a housing system that relies on a revolving door effect that isn't happening because homes owned by inactive accounts aren't being relinquished.
    Exactly what I'm saying.

    What was even the point to introduce this lottery system if no houses will be made available via vacancies for anyone to even bid on? After people are done claiming relocation openings from people moving to the Empyreum, that'll be it. It's over. No houses are left to bid on. So are we waiting on new wards then? What houses are we bidding on. Where are they coming from. Because with demolition off, there won't be openings. and if they're not adding wards then there's no openings either. Is that it then? Players get a chance at housing once every 2 years after building a new housing zone? What's going on, they need to clarify a little further than just "the fc wards will be available to private buyers soon". Thanks for that, but those will fill too. and then guess what, there's still hundreds of people still waiting for houses to bid on. Where are these houses supposed to come from? Or is housing going to be something that only older players get to have then and newer players should just forget ever wanting one because demolition seems too mean? What's the plan, what's the next move.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avoidy View Post
    That being said, I'm genuinely curious why they've been able to add new wards before, but now people want to act like it's an impossibility when it's brought up. I sure hope in their next live letter, the 2 billion dollar company talks about this so random fanboys can stop speaking on their behalf about their technical limitations.
    Their ability to add new wards is contingent on not only acquiring new custom hardware but also having their own blessed team of operations acolytes install it.

    Pre-COVID this was already a challenge because they insisted on a specific flavor of hardware and only let their specifically trained people perform the installations. COVID triggered both supply-chain issues and a massive worker shortage. The semi-conductor industry has been particularly hard hit by both. As much money as Square has at its disposal it does not require the volume of chips that the automotive industry does. Since supply is short the one or two remaining chip fabs in the world have dedicated the bulk of their production facilities to the industry that can actually pay them billions.

    The accepted theory is that the ward system is hideously inefficient. The SWAG is that the same server racks that mange the wards could handle far more housing if they were instanced.
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    I like how some people think they can magically create new wards for every server in the game. In theory that could be true, but could it crash the world? Probably.

    Like in my operations, I can put a few commands to start up new instances of servers if it's needed, but there is what I call a "credit limit". Plus more does not always mean better in our world, in my example say the servers aren't optimized to run beyond 20 instances currently. We would need to optimize the code to work better for 30 instances. Might even need more new hardware for CPU power and storage.

    Like a ward obviously has a lot storage requirements, it also in a sense adding more maps to the server to track so that's also capacity. Server C might have capacity for a few more wards, but servers E-G does not. Obviously they will go with until all servers can have the capacity to add X amount of wards, they won't add any. It's quite a process that likely has it's own roadmap and project plan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xirean View Post
    If it's not over then the timer should stay on.
    By that logic, demo should be disabled for the next few decades due to covid?
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