Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
Based on any discussion alternatives that aren't "make the DPS kit more involved" being met with scorn.
Mm, K.

There IS kit interactivity, just not with their damage kit. And I'll note you can't resist the urge to make personal attacks...
What, the freecure proc?
And I mean, if you're a thumbsucker, more power to you.

No one is being "infantilized".
Except the entire healer role, the tank role, and, slowly, but surely, the DPS role...

The problem I have with people arguing from your side of this issue is that none of you seem able to resist urges to attack people as bads, babies, or invalids.
The problem with people like you is that you have major difficulty accepting that there are players of differing skill levels, from the lowest to the highest, and any reference to there being such is seen as a personal attack against you, whether or not you are the actual target of such words.
These things are not inherently bad things, but they all need to be considered and incorporated into the design, not just the lowest factors.

Mulit-tasking is. Juggling DPS is not.
Juggling DPS is part of the multi-tasking, so if you admit one is a part, then so is the other by default.


Note that all the people insisting there is a 11111 rotation seem to fail to realize that if they're weaving oGCDs in there, it's not 11111, it's 12134151161211371181914 and so on.
That's because the rotation is the constant. The oGCDs woven in are not necessarily constant, and, therefore, don't get included in the rotation.
Hence the rotation being only a few buttons, momentarily interrupted by any oGCDs. I don't disagree that oGCDs have to be considered, but I also agree that 211111211111 is the general rotation and does not make for a proper rotation. As long as a majority of the spell casts are just the 1, we still have a problem and I believe healers are justified in feeling the need to quit or request something more, while respecting what we currently have in place for the basic needs of the role.

You REALLY can't help yourself from making personal attacks, can you?
Apparently only as much as you can't help yourself from drawing conclusions from nothing and being offended for others like an SJW glued to their twitter feed.

Do you even know what my suggestion is?
If it didn't matter to you as to whether or not I did care before you made your emotionally charged statement, why does whether or not I know matter to you now?
With that in mind, I stand by my statements.

tarred, feathered, and run out of the forum on a rail.
No, I'd prefer to boil the skin off and pickle the rest.

How on earth is my take "uncompromising"?!
The part where you say "it's the only take," which it's not. The part where you also seem to think you know what I want, assume what everyone else wants, but, in fact, you don't exactly know. Also the part where you seem to think you know better and try to speak with authority but resort to attacking others only to be offended when someone turns it back on you or decides to speak in opposition even when not specifically against you.

No, the Devs have already said they aren't giving you want you want.
Nah, they didn't say that at all, actually. But if it makes you feel better, I doubt they'd ever give me what it is that I actually want, better still that they'll likely not give you what you're proposing.

So the alternative to what I propose - my proposal being the compromise position - is the Devs just continuing to do what they've been doing and YOU getting nothing.
I have news for you: that's not the alternative to your proposal, that is the current state of the game, and has been for years.

Meanwhile, there are other proposals out there that provide compromises that are much easier to implement and also easier to swallow for both sides, some that don't even interfere with the current state of affairs (except to allow more growth), but those likely won't be considered either. And that's the real shame.