Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
And for reference: "enjoy playing healers" means "enjoy healing". If we enjoyed dealing damage and complex damage rotations, we'd all be playing DPSers. What YOU seem to want is to be a DPSer with some oGCD heals so you can benefit from healer ques.
If I enjoyed effortlessly winning by mashing one button, I'd play Cookie Clicker.

I've linked to my refutation of this talking point multiple times now, might as well do it again.

Give it a read and maybe you'll understand why we're asking for better DPS rotations. It's hard to "enjoy healing" when healing is flat-out not necessary in anything below P3S. It's hard to "enjoy healing" when dungeon bosses hit like a wet noodle, tank self-sustain lets them solo Normal raids, and healers have kits bloated with multiple copies of the same spell (do you want Cure 2, oGCD Cure 2, instant-cast Cure 2, or two Cure 2s in a trenchcoat - a.k.a. Benediction?), that massively outweigh incoming damage in 95% of the game content. It's hard to "enjoy healing" when, contra YoshiderP's assertions, healer DPS has been mathematically proven to be necessary in at least some Savage tiers.

In such a scenario, healing is largely irrelevant. DPS becomes the only thing that matters, because it's the only thing incentivized by the game design. Don't like it? Blame Square, not us.

Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
But hey, since you don't like my suggestion, I guess it means you prefer the alternative? STICKING WITH WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW WITH NO CHANGES?
The only alternative to a logical argument is a Fallacy of the Excluded Middle. There are no other options. /s

Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
No one is being "infantilized". The problem I have with people arguing from your side of this issue is that none of you seem able to resist urges to attack people as bads, babies, or invalids.
The infantilization is coming from Square. YoshiderP has stated he doesn't want to "stress" healers by asking them to, y'know, do their job. He defends deleting healer DPS skills because "healers should focus on healing," then defends content that doesn't ask healers to heal, and gives tank and DPS jobs healing skills, all in the name of not "stressing" the widdle babby heawers uwu.

Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
Most MMO healers have extremely basic DPS kits that they use when soloing and either don't use at all in group content or use very very minimally as filler.
I'll take, "Things a Disc Priest would never say," for $400, Alex.