Healers need an overhaul

[Nethereal]

I don't understand Sage. I mean, what is the point of damage healer if they don't have a proper damage kit? I honestly thought the job would have shields as a level up abilities and at the same time build a proper damage kit to heal. I admit balancing would be hard but it would be fun.

Sage was just a developer "f*ck you." to the community, specifically the healer community because they begrudgingly had to give SCH Energy Drain back after they took it away.

So they just copied SCH without Energy Drain, did a few touch ups and released it as a new healer, 2 birds 1 stone. They even advertised it as the "dps healer" for that chef's kiss.

[technole]

Energy Drain makes YoshiP roll his eyes, for those who forgot, he called it out in an interview on changes before Eden's Promise saying he preferred scholars to use aetherflow for healing, hence the potency nerf and upping bio/broil. It's probably gone by 7.0 when they actually spend some time on the job and give up the 'but Sage new' excuse. Better yet just remove Aetherflow and re-do the gauge.

[Fukuro]

SCH seriously needs it's old abilities like Bane and Miasma back as well as shadowflare.

I miss old Scholar so much. It felt like an empty shell when they removed all these skills... There was something so satisfying about applying dots and then spreading them. That's why I mained Scholar, I loved its aesthetic. It changed so much these past years while getting worse and worse. Summoner on the other hand got some amazing adjustments, cool additions, and a whole rework now. (It's not perfect now, but I see them already making cool changes and additions with 7.0, while Scholar and the other healers will be left behind in the dust again)

It doesn't sit right with me how they stripped away so much identity of Scholar to separate them from Summoner aesthetic-wise - but didn't give them something cool back, while summoner got so much attention. Nobody can tell me there is no role-favoritism going on.

So they just copied SCH without Energy Drain, did a few touch ups and released it as a new healer, 2 birds 1 stone. They even advertised it as the "dps healer" for that chef's kiss.

I had a good laugh once I realized that Sage was a carbon copy of Scholar just with cooler-looking animations once setting up my hot bar.

[Punslinger]

They follow a pretty simple formula.

Give argument, get proven wrong, respond with pedantry, ignore counter argument, I win, onto the next post.

I would probably win every argument I partake in as well If I did the same.

I move that we rename the Gish Gallop to the Silverbane Shuffle. Is there a second?

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

AST is getting adjusted so I can wait on that.

As much as I’m wishing for a good change, I’m also anxious of what sort of ‘adjustment’ they’re going to do.

I.e. Undraw will probably stay untouched lmao.

[anhaato]

Energy Drain makes YoshiP roll his eyes, for those who forgot, he called it out in an interview on changes before Eden's Promise saying he preferred scholars to use aetherflow for healing, hence the potency nerf and upping bio/broil. It's probably gone by 7.0 when they actually spend some time on the job and give up the 'but Sage new' excuse. Better yet just remove Aetherflow and re-do the gauge.

Well he hardly plays healers so why does his opinion matter?

[BRVV]

I just imagined a world where we have some sort of PVE competition (like that mythic+ tournament thing? from WoW) and Yoshi P takes a few minutes to watch the top players. He sees sweating dps and tank players and then there is the healer who presses his 1 button, heals when needed, yawns and asks when lunch is

[Raiya]

I miss old Scholar so much. It felt like an empty shell when they removed all these skills... There was something so satisfying about applying dots and then spreading them. That's why I mained Scholar, I loved its aesthetic. It changed so much these past years while getting worse and worse. Summoner on the other hand got some amazing adjustments, cool additions, and a whole rework now. (It's not perfect now, but I see them already making cool changes and additions with 7.0, while Scholar and the other healers will be left behind in the dust again)

It doesn't sit right with me how they stripped away so much identity of Scholar to separate them from Summoner aesthetic-wise - but didn't give them something cool back, while summoner got so much attention. Nobody can tell me there is no role-favoritism going on.




I had a good laugh once I realized that Sage was a carbon copy of Scholar just with cooler-looking animations once setting up my hot bar.

Isn't even that the main problem with SCH is it's kit to me is too bloated and convoluted as well as the aetherflow system being a mess. The whole job needs a rebuild closer to it's original ARR/HW design and theme the aetherflow system retired as well as dissapation either being completely reworked or deleted. After the whole mess that was SMN getting reworked SCH is probably the next one really needing a proper rebuild expecially since all it gets is like 4 usable offensive abilities now. ShB did SCH real dirty and made it a very unwieldy job to play. Hell the changes in ShB to healer's were wholly unpopular in general.

[ASkellington]

As much as I’m wishing for a good change, I’m also anxious of what sort of ‘adjustment’ they’re going to do.

I.e. Undraw will probably stay untouched lmao.

It is laughable that they keep Undraw literally the undisputed king of useless ability in the game. There is 0 reason to Undraw a card. It doesn't give you Mana, it doesn't give you an extra Draw, all cards even back in SB from what I read were worth using in some way (either playing on a character or RR fodder) and doubly so now thanks to the seals system being 100% worthless other than Refresh on CD....

Just... SE. WHY haven't you removed this ability from the game 2 expansions ago? Do you seriously not give a single care to healers that you'll let a button that shouldn't even BE on an AST's bar stay?

[MintnHoney]

Just... SE. WHY haven't you removed this ability from the game 2 expansions ago? Do you seriously not give a single care to healers that you'll let a button that shouldn't even BE on an AST's bar stay?

There's a part of me that suspects that they can't remove it.
Basically, the draw action sequence has to have a way out, with no effect to AST's current status, because the original design had an issue where you couldn't overwrite what card you had drawn by drawing a new card. This meant that, if you had a card you didn't want to use, it had to be undrawn. Of course, PC players could, in those days, right-click the buff icon to remove the card and continue, but controller players needed the undraw button to be added in while they figured this issue out.
So they may have kept the action in as a last resort method, in the event that they end up creating a state like that again, or the action's presence is a requirement to prevent it because of the nature of their spaghetti coding.

Either that, or they believe that healer contributions are so unnecessary that we should be tossing away cards when it doesn't lead to a perfect Astrodyne.