Chiming in late, and only read the OP.

I've tried to relate to the ancients multiple times. It's like trying to plug in your laptop at a hotel in another country without an adapter. There are some reasons for this:

- Collectively, they decided to sacrifice half of their entire population
- twice
- were going to do it a third time
- Venat said, "Nay. All y'all."
- Unsundered caused 7 mass extinction events. Killing billions.
- Just one created a collective conscious aka Psychotron 9000, and sent them into space where they proceeded to end several civilizations.

These guys have a serious genocide complex, and I can see why we (Azem) turned against essentially all of them. Even Venat.