The Ancients still deserved better, after everything

[DPZ2]

The Ancients could create Entelechies, like Meteion. So they could create an Entelechy to go fight Meteion.

Y'all need to think about things and not just accept what you are told.

ONE Ancient could create entelechies: Hermes. His research wasn't shared. He also was of the opinion that Meteion was something he wished to protect. He did actually live through the Final Days, you know, at no point offering to resolve the problem.

[Lihtleita]

ONE Ancient could create entelechies: Hermes.

what about the dude who made the flower

[DPZ2]

what about the dude who made the flower

No one knows who created the Elpis flower, nor has anyone found research about its creation.

[TaleraRistain]

No one knows who created the Elpis flower, nor has anyone found research about its creation.

No proof in game, but I had a thought it may have been a former version of Hermes.

[Lihtleita]

No one knows who created the Elpis flower, nor has anyone found research about its creation.

untrue, they know it was an ancient known for making other kinds of flowers, and it would have to filed with the bureau of the architect. no-one is specific in telling us because we're a nosy little gremlin running around doing blue quests.

[Lauront]

ONE Ancient could create entelechies: Hermes. His research wasn't shared. He also was of the opinion that Meteion was something he wished to protect. He did actually live through the Final Days, you know, at no point offering to resolve the problem.

He was admitted to the Convocation and became Fandaniel. What are you even talking about? The problem was they did not know the origin of the crisis (again, it was not shared with them by Venat), so they focused on solutions based on inferred patterns of weakness in the celestial currents. Also, the Elpis flowers were not his creation. They had the capability to create these things, and there is little reason to believe this research could not be picked up, if they knew this was the avenue of research they had to pursue. 12k+ years is an awful long time frame within which to come up with a solution.

I'm okay with a broken time loop and WoL's ceasing to exist as long as it leads to a better end for the Ancients. I have minimal interest or care in the Sundered characters--the individual who said above that they found the Ancients cold and distant? That's exactly how I feel about the Scions, and have for years.

Same here.

[DPZ2]

12k+ years is an awful long time frame within which to come up with a solution.

You are assuming that the Ancients would have 12,000 years to come up with a solution. They had no clue as to the cause of the Final Days, and with things 'back to normal' under Zodiark, why would they pursue something they can't detect?