The Ancients still deserved better, after everything

[DPZ2]

Which was preventable, if only Venat had the temerity to tell the truth. When faced with what they were due to missing or false info, what people with the means WOULDN'T summon a God? I fully believe if Venat fully equipped them perhaps even Zodiark would not be necessary.

The time loop would be unbound in that case. We were never born. The information did not go back in time with us. Nobody learned of Hermes information. The Ancients all die. End of story.

[AnEmissary]

I'm okay with a broken time loop and WoL's ceasing to exist as long as it leads to a better end for the Ancients. I have minimal interest or care in the Sundered characters--the individual who said above that they found the Ancients cold and distant? That's exactly how I feel about the Scions, and have for years.

Venat's presence for the situation in Elpis was assured whether WoL went back in time or not. She has the information. Perhaps, without the assurance of their later involvement, she would have been motivated to act on it in a proper manner in her own time, instead of resorting to such senseless destruction as the Sundering.