Why is there no option to blacklist players from estates?

[Krotoan]

Blacklists are lacking so much. They SHOULD: Prevent people from or remove you from their friendlist, prevent matchups, prevent trades, restrict access to houses or other small instances you're in.


Right now all they do is make it so they can't PM you and you can't see what they say.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Blacklists are lacking so much. They SHOULD: Prevent people from or remove you from their friendlist, prevent matchups, prevent trades, restrict access to houses or other small instances you're in.


Right now all they do is make it so they can't PM you and you can't see what they say.

Yeah, expansion on the feature is pretty much necessary these days.

Too many stalkers and harassers.

[YuzuyuVolanti]

Yeah, expansion on the feature is pretty much necessary these days.

Too many stalkers and harassers.

It really surprises me how insanely hard it is to successfully block someone, especially if it's something you don't catch right away. They constantly tell you in the "report harassment" section to "remember to blacklist" but it's like; sure, I'd love to...? If I could? Can you make it so it works offline/offworld/etc? Can you keep them from entering my estate(s)?

[YuzuyuVolanti]

Blacklists are lacking so much. They SHOULD: Prevent people from or remove you from their friendlist, prevent matchups, prevent trades, restrict access to houses or other small instances you're in.


Right now all they do is make it so they can't PM you and you can't see what they say.

Really heavily agree. If I don't want to see someone's chat messages, or receive private messages from them, I probably also don't want them in a party with me or in my house. It's INSANELY wild to me that it's so limited. Most games (or chat services in general) let you blacklist no matter what and there's almost no way for them to find/get ahold of you once you've done so. This game still leaves you awkwardly accessible/vulnerable to players you really don't want to be around for one reason or another.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Right now all they do is make it so they can't PM you and you can't see what they say.

Wasn't their reason to not make blacklist do more than these is because they want to avoid the "Why do they remove me?"-situation from the blacklisted? Or was this more about friendlist removal? I couldn't quite recall it... but either way, I think it's absurd. We really should have an option to completely remove interaction from certain player if we wish to.

[LianaThorne]

Wasn't their reason to not make blacklist do more than these is because they want to avoid the "Why do they remove me?"-situation from the blacklisted? Or was this more about friendlist removal? I couldn't quite recall it... but either way, I think it's absurd. We really should have an option to completely remove interaction from certain player if we wish to.

That's referring to friend list removal but similar concept for blacklisting. They basically care about the feelings of the person being blacklisted and expect us to be able to work things out like adults or take it to GMs for harassment.

I will say, as someone who has had a GM get involved in a situation I had with a stalker, they do help. Just not sure how efficient they are in general with getting to all cases in a timely manner.

[YuzuyuVolanti]

That's referring to friend list removal but similar concept for blacklisting. They basically care about the feelings of the person being blacklisted and expect us to be able to work things out like adults or take it to GMs for harassment.

I will say, as someone who has had a GM get involved in a situation I had with a stalker, they do help. Just not sure how efficient they are in general with getting to all cases in a timely manner.

They were admittedly quicker than I had expected given my particular case (this time) wasn't severe, it was like maybe 24-48h tops before I got a "Hey so we're looking into it" response, and then ~12-16h after that I more or less got confirmation that they did something because the person returned to my estate while I was afk to make it known that they'd done something, LOL

[YuzuyuVolanti]

Wasn't their reason to not make blacklist do more than these is because they want to avoid the "Why do they remove me?"-situation from the blacklisted? Or was this more about friendlist removal? I couldn't quite recall it... but either way, I think it's absurd. We really should have an option to completely remove interaction from certain player if we wish to.

That seems like a really strange reason. I've had people try asking my friends why I removed/blocked them but usually if it was warranted (i.e. certain kinds of harassment, stalking, etc.), my friends follow suit in also blocking or just refuse to respond. I feel like that makes sense for why removing someone from your friendslist doesn't remove you from theirs, but not for blacklisting but god knows. But yeah, I would really love to just have a "I never want to see or hear from or look at this player again" option

[LianaThorne]

That seems like a really strange reason. I've had people try asking my friends why I removed/blocked them but usually if it was warranted (i.e. certain kinds of harassment, stalking, etc.), my friends follow suit in also blocking or just refuse to respond. I feel like that makes sense for why removing someone from your friendslist doesn't remove you from theirs, but not for blacklisting but god knows. But yeah, I would really love to just have a "I never want to see or hear from or look at this player again" option

To be fair, even if they did block the ability to teleport to your estate, they could just look on the directory for your address and go anyway and stand outside on your front lawn...speaking from experience. Also, I'm sure it would be a nightmare to implement for FCs if they account for everyone's blacklist. I could understand for private homes but FCs would be messy. You can also just lock the door to your estate as a precaution (I had to do thst with my apartment for a while until my situation was resolved).

Also, situations like what you mentioned (telling multiple people to blacklist and ignore said person) are the reason why they care about the one being blocked.

[YuzuyuVolanti]

To be fair, even if they did block the ability to teleport to your estate, they could just look on the directory for your address and go anyway and stand outside on your front lawn...speaking from experience. Also, I'm sure it would be a nightmare to implement for FCs if they account for everyone's blacklist. I could understand for private homes but FCs would be messy. You can also just lock the door to your estate as a precaution (I had to do thst with my apartment for a while until my situation was resolved).

Also, situations like what you mentioned (telling multiple people to blacklist and ignore said person) are the reason why they care about the one being blocked.

I don't generally ever tell anyone who to blist or ignore specifically. Usually if it's something severe/worrying I'll give a broad warning as a just in case; like in sexual harassment cases or stalking other female players, etc. and advise people, then tell them that they're free to continue interacting/doing whatever with the person. If I just find someone annoying or it's something that only bothers me, I don't generally bother anyone with it.

I don't mean for it to account for EVERYONE's blacklist though- just having one for the estate in particular or work off the leader's blist or something. I know it doesn't 100% resolve everything, since I've blocked people and had them, somehow, find and stand on me in the middle of the Azim Steppe of all places. I know they can't account for literally every possibility but it just feels so weird that you can block someone and then still have them able to run in to an estate you own and, for example, write in the book. I hate the idea of having to literally just lock our door because we have other friends from other FCs that'll pop by for a quick hello or to hang out- so it feels bad to have to lock/unlock the doors to let them in and out, especially since the visits are random.