Why is there no option to blacklist players from estates?

[YuzuyuVolanti]

To be fair, even if they did block the ability to teleport to your estate, they could just look on the directory for your address and go anyway and stand outside on your front lawn...speaking from experience. Also, I'm sure it would be a nightmare to implement for FCs if they account for everyone's blacklist. I could understand for private homes but FCs would be messy. You can also just lock the door to your estate as a precaution (I had to do thst with my apartment for a while until my situation was resolved).

Also, situations like what you mentioned (telling multiple people to blacklist and ignore said person) are the reason why they care about the one being blocked.

I don't generally ever tell anyone who to blist or ignore specifically. Usually if it's something severe/worrying I'll give a broad warning as a just in case; like in sexual harassment cases or stalking other female players, etc. and advise people, then tell them that they're free to continue interacting/doing whatever with the person. If I just find someone annoying or it's something that only bothers me, I don't generally bother anyone with it.

I don't mean for it to account for EVERYONE's blacklist though- just having one for the estate in particular or work off the leader's blist or something. I know it doesn't 100% resolve everything, since I've blocked people and had them, somehow, find and stand on me in the middle of the Azim Steppe of all places. I know they can't account for literally every possibility but it just feels so weird that you can block someone and then still have them able to run in to an estate you own and, for example, write in the book. I hate the idea of having to literally just lock our door because we have other friends from other FCs that'll pop by for a quick hello or to hang out- so it feels bad to have to lock/unlock the doors to let them in and out, especially since the visits are random.

[Denji]

it is so absurdly difficult to blacklist people in general.

there are people on primal that will just repeatedly tp across the various cities and use /sea to get a list of all the people in the area, /tell them and then warp to the next city and repeat and if you don't instantly catch them and blacklist them they'll have teleported away and it won't work.

[YuzuyuVolanti]

it is so absurdly difficult to blacklist people in general.

there are people on primal that will just repeatedly tp across the various cities and use /sea to get a list of all the people in the area, /tell them and then warp to the next city and repeat and if you don't instantly catch them and blacklist them they'll have teleported away and it won't work.

Yeah; I've had people I wasn't able to blacklist before send me a message and then log out or otherwise make it difficult to blacklist them- it's really frustrating. What prompted this question is a neighbouring FC keeps coming to our house, spamming our message book (which I now had to remove after 2 reports), and then leaving. They left a taunting message in /say while I was AFK, just making it more frustrating because I was still at work when it happened- come back, person is offline/in duty or otherwise unable to be grabbed and blacklisted. Report function is like "remember to blacklist!" can we... make it easier? and also it doesn't solve the problem? I had to remove a book that had some lovely messages from friends in hopes that it makes the issue stop. Then as a female character there's the blatant inappropriate kinds of harassment and if the person does any of the mentioned things to escape a block, welp...

[Nethereal]

Well the good news is when you blacklist someone they can't join a party you're the leader of, thank god.

[YuzuyuVolanti]

Well the good news is when you blacklist someone they can't join a party you're the leader of, thank god.

Well at least we have that, LOL

[DezereDawn]

A friend of mine is still dealing with the anxiety of having a stalker looming around her server, contacted gms, they wouldn't do anything about it, they had a falling out after getting EB'd in game and it led to really creepy behaviour, and you guessed it, can't restrict or remove their EB tp access either, as long as they don't remarry themselves.

this game NEEDS a better block system, never had stalking issues like this in other mmos affect me or my friend group, but here it's far too easy and the GMs don't do anything about it half of the time.

[LianaThorne]

A friend of mine is still dealing with the anxiety of having a stalker looming around her server, contacted gms, they wouldn't do anything about it, they had a falling out after getting EB'd in game and it led to really creepy behaviour, and you guessed it, can't restrict or remove their EB tp access either, as long as they don't remarry themselves.

this game NEEDS a better block system, never had stalking issues like this in other mmos affect me or my friend group, but here it's far too easy and the GMs don't do anything about it half of the time.

Well, wouldn't your friend marrying someone else make their stalkers ring ineffective? Could have it be an FC member or another friend that wants the stuff that comes with marriage. I don't have a ton of knowledge on the deep details of how rings work (since all of my EB breakings have been mutual or on the end of my ex spouse) but you'd think if one gets remarried it would make the others ring null and void.

Obviously it shouldn't be the way it is, in terms of how rings work. But trying to think of a quick solution.

[YuzuyuVolanti]

Well, wouldn't your friend marrying someone else make their stalkers ring ineffective? Could have it be an FC member or another friend that wants the stuff that comes with marriage. I don't have a ton of knowledge on the deep details of how rings work (since all of my EB breakings have been mutual or on the end of my ex spouse) but you'd think if one gets remarried it would make the others ring null and void.

Obviously it shouldn't be the way it is, in terms of how rings work. But trying to think of a quick solution.

So; it's a bit weird and, as you said, you'd think it would just... make the ring null. However: No, actually. The divorced partner's ring still works, unless they themselves turn the ring in. A friend of mine has been EB'd several times and my ex husband (irl and in game) still has a functional ring as well, at least last I talked with him. It's incredibly strange. Afaik, it doesn't even tell the other player they've been divorced, much like blocking and blacklisting. This is the kind of stuff that makes me really scratch my head.

[YuzuyuVolanti]

A friend of mine is still dealing with the anxiety of having a stalker looming around her server, contacted gms, they wouldn't do anything about it, they had a falling out after getting EB'd in game and it led to really creepy behaviour, and you guessed it, can't restrict or remove their EB tp access either, as long as they don't remarry themselves.

this game NEEDS a better block system, never had stalking issues like this in other mmos affect me or my friend group, but here it's far too easy and the GMs don't do anything about it half of the time.

Yeah; I've never been one for a lot of MMOs purely because I'm fairly introverted and most just don't stick with me, but, any time I've ever played one it's been as easy as adding them to blacklist and then I basically never hear or see them again. And if I do, and I report it, usually they're gone shortly after. It's so weird to me that they're concerned with potential fringe cases of people using it to be jerks rather than people using it to filter out things they don't want to see/hear or avoid harassment and stalking. It's just kind of wild to me. It's like the court system saying "We can't give you a restraining order because it might hurt their feelings ".

[Renalt]

I agree. Not too long ago this female Au Ra just waltzed into my apartment and wrecked everything and sold my Boko stuffed animal collection and was just laying there naked on my bed and...

wait what were we talking about again?