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    Why is there no option to blacklist players from estates?

    A recent issue I've had has more or less caused an issue to become more apparent to me; why is it that there's no way to keep a specific player from entering your FC estate? I believe someone you've blacklisted can still access your personal home as well, if it is open, but this seems like a strange oversight.

    I get that you can lock/unlock your estate so that only FC members or tenants can enter, and if you've blocked someone they can't directly TP to your estate (though they can find it and walk). But this feels like too broad a thing- if I only want to keep a particular person (or handful of people, maybe) out of my house, why is it not possible to prevent entry to them without straight up locking my house? I want to still be able to allow my friends to enter.

    This is more or less just a curiosity thing- I'm not expecting a sudden change, though it would be nice to have this added. I'm not sure if it's been addressed before and I just missed it somewhere.
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    Blacklists are lacking so much. They SHOULD: Prevent people from or remove you from their friendlist, prevent matchups, prevent trades, restrict access to houses or other small instances you're in.


    Right now all they do is make it so they can't PM you and you can't see what they say.
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    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    Blacklists are lacking so much. They SHOULD: Prevent people from or remove you from their friendlist, prevent matchups, prevent trades, restrict access to houses or other small instances you're in.


    Right now all they do is make it so they can't PM you and you can't see what they say.
    Yeah, expansion on the feature is pretty much necessary these days.

    Too many stalkers and harassers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Yeah, expansion on the feature is pretty much necessary these days.

    Too many stalkers and harassers.
    It really surprises me how insanely hard it is to successfully block someone, especially if it's something you don't catch right away. They constantly tell you in the "report harassment" section to "remember to blacklist" but it's like; sure, I'd love to...? If I could? Can you make it so it works offline/offworld/etc? Can you keep them from entering my estate(s)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    Blacklists are lacking so much. They SHOULD: Prevent people from or remove you from their friendlist, prevent matchups, prevent trades, restrict access to houses or other small instances you're in.


    Right now all they do is make it so they can't PM you and you can't see what they say.
    Really heavily agree. If I don't want to see someone's chat messages, or receive private messages from them, I probably also don't want them in a party with me or in my house. It's INSANELY wild to me that it's so limited. Most games (or chat services in general) let you blacklist no matter what and there's almost no way for them to find/get ahold of you once you've done so. This game still leaves you awkwardly accessible/vulnerable to players you really don't want to be around for one reason or another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    Right now all they do is make it so they can't PM you and you can't see what they say.
    Wasn't their reason to not make blacklist do more than these is because they want to avoid the "Why do they remove me?"-situation from the blacklisted? Or was this more about friendlist removal? I couldn't quite recall it... but either way, I think it's absurd. We really should have an option to completely remove interaction from certain player if we wish to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Wasn't their reason to not make blacklist do more than these is because they want to avoid the "Why do they remove me?"-situation from the blacklisted? Or was this more about friendlist removal? I couldn't quite recall it... but either way, I think it's absurd. We really should have an option to completely remove interaction from certain player if we wish to.
    That's referring to friend list removal but similar concept for blacklisting. They basically care about the feelings of the person being blacklisted and expect us to be able to work things out like adults or take it to GMs for harassment.

    I will say, as someone who has had a GM get involved in a situation I had with a stalker, they do help. Just not sure how efficient they are in general with getting to all cases in a timely manner.
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    Last edited by LianaThorne; 05-31-2022 at 05:08 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    That's referring to friend list removal but similar concept for blacklisting. They basically care about the feelings of the person being blacklisted and expect us to be able to work things out like adults or take it to GMs for harassment.

    I will say, as someone who has had a GM get involved in a situation I had with a stalker, they do help. Just not sure how efficient they are in general with getting to all cases in a timely manner.
    They were admittedly quicker than I had expected given my particular case (this time) wasn't severe, it was like maybe 24-48h tops before I got a "Hey so we're looking into it" response, and then ~12-16h after that I more or less got confirmation that they did something because the person returned to my estate while I was afk to make it known that they'd done something, LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Wasn't their reason to not make blacklist do more than these is because they want to avoid the "Why do they remove me?"-situation from the blacklisted? Or was this more about friendlist removal? I couldn't quite recall it... but either way, I think it's absurd. We really should have an option to completely remove interaction from certain player if we wish to.
    That seems like a really strange reason. I've had people try asking my friends why I removed/blocked them but usually if it was warranted (i.e. certain kinds of harassment, stalking, etc.), my friends follow suit in also blocking or just refuse to respond. I feel like that makes sense for why removing someone from your friendslist doesn't remove you from theirs, but not for blacklisting but god knows. But yeah, I would really love to just have a "I never want to see or hear from or look at this player again" option
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    Quote Originally Posted by YuzuyuVolanti View Post
    That seems like a really strange reason. I've had people try asking my friends why I removed/blocked them but usually if it was warranted (i.e. certain kinds of harassment, stalking, etc.), my friends follow suit in also blocking or just refuse to respond. I feel like that makes sense for why removing someone from your friendslist doesn't remove you from theirs, but not for blacklisting but god knows. But yeah, I would really love to just have a "I never want to see or hear from or look at this player again" option
    To be fair, even if they did block the ability to teleport to your estate, they could just look on the directory for your address and go anyway and stand outside on your front lawn...speaking from experience. Also, I'm sure it would be a nightmare to implement for FCs if they account for everyone's blacklist. I could understand for private homes but FCs would be messy. You can also just lock the door to your estate as a precaution (I had to do thst with my apartment for a while until my situation was resolved).

    Also, situations like what you mentioned (telling multiple people to blacklist and ignore said person) are the reason why they care about the one being blocked.
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