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  1. #31
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    Likethewind's Avatar
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    Shiroro Hiruru
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neihel View Post
    overtime is a comeback mechanic without it people will afk when they see they are being stomped
    This is already happening
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    Player Gserpent's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Likethewind View Post
    This is already happening
    Report them. Cite "lethargic play" in the report, since that's the explicit ToS violation you're aiming for. If someone is standing in spawn or otherwise just kind of running around in circles and making no effort to engage, no matter how bad the game is going, and it's clearly not just them waiting for allies to respawn or whatever... send the GMs a report on it.

    As Yoshida has said in a recent letter, GMs do not take action unless there's an established pattern of that behavior - and without people flagging behavior as potentially destructive, that pattern will be impossible to establish. So don't worry about accidentally reporting someone that's not violating a rule - if they aren't consistently behaving that way, they won't get caught in the net. Even in casual, you should report these folks. Not only because it's intentionally ruining the game and wasting the time of 9 other players, but because in my experience people that are toxic in one area of the game tend to be toxic in other areas as well.

    More on topic: Overtime is fine, but it needs to have a set limit. Two or three minutes is more than enough time to cross the map at least once (it's like maybe 30 seconds to go from mid to goal, including stopping at the checkpoint, if all five people stand on the checkpoint), and it removes the balance problems created by "everyone has to be on the point" design OT currently operates under. The game ends immediately when OT is up, and whoever has made the most progress at that time is declared the winner (including progress on checkpoint.) In the event that both teams are even, the match is declared a draw - no points gained or lost for either side.
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Likethewind View Post
    This is already happening
    It would also happen substantially more without overtime

    Long OTs can be annoying sometimes, but I’ll take that over watching people instantly afk after losing the first fight in half the matches. Necessary evil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gserpent View Post
    Report them. Cite "lethargic play" in the report, since that's the explicit ToS violation you're aiming for. If someone is standing in spawn or otherwise just kind of running around in circles and making no effort to engage, no matter how bad the game is going, and it's clearly not just them waiting for allies to respawn or whatever... send the GMs a report on it.
    Then we should also be able to report players who throw themselves at the enemy team 1v5. People who sit in spawn building LB charge benefit their team more than those doing suicidal charges.
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    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Raansu Omiyari
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neihel View Post
    overtime is a comeback mechanic without it people will afk when they see they are being stomped
    People afk anyways and comeback mechanics are literally the problem in any game. If you need to win using a comeback mechanic then you didn't deserve that win. Overtime is fine, but the way its implemented is complete trash.
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