Remove Overtime from Crystal Conflict

[Ixon]

And fall back tells them that how? That's a blanket call out that tells them nothing and doesn't even need to be said if they aren't by a Sam.

If that said Sam LB up then sure. So no.

Simple. I put a big, shiny, red "Ignore" marker on an enemy SAM when they have LB up. Because even though it is my teammates personal responsibility to not get themselves killed, I try to help as much as I can. When their LB is gone, I take it off. Simple and effective for most players. Those that still die to it were going to die to it regardless. Can't carry everyone.

[Necrotica]

Remove this crap. Seriously the more I play the more I wonder how you could mess up this bad.

[Pibz]

Maintain control of the payload better and you won't have this issue.

If the enemy team is just going to hard stall by throwing themselves at the payload one at a time, their death timers will eventually scale up to the point where they can't get back to the payload in time and they just lose. If your team is ahead and has full control when time runs out, there's no overtime and you just win. Partial control (players from both teams are on the payload but your team has more) isn't good enough.

Keep in mind that overtime exists specifically to enable come-from-behind victories so the losing team has a reason to keep playing until the time runs out. If one Dancer-LB-into-AoE-LB team wipe was enough to decide the game during overtime, 1) the enemy team should have done that sooner, and 2) your team didn't deserve the win nearly as much as you think they did.

"Here's how the matches actually end up and why it's a problem"

"well what if you made them not do that lol, just ignore reality bro"

Yeah brilliant

[Xel]

Overtime, great joke, just like RNG Ranked.

[Kynuh]

With cheaters spamming skills with 0 cooldown, it is a mechanic that kills any sort of fun or skill. Worst pvp experience ever. Bravo for proving that everything that came with EW destroyed the work of art that was ShadowBringers.

[Arkdra]

Overtime is rad and there's a lot of whiners getting outplayed by dancers in here apparently?

That said, sometimes it goes on a bit long and having a hard time limit on it wouldn't be bad. But then on the other hand those hard fought games are the most fun so maybe not.

[illutian]

Here I am thinking Overtime needs to be changed to require the crystal still be pushed to the end point.

It's gotta be extremely demoralizing for the other team to get into OT, be making headway, then fail because the other team still had more progress than them.

[Mewi]

I'd like either overtime to be removed, or limited in time. The indefinite game matches you get in, are so time consuming. Either give me the loss or the win, just let me get onto the next match. Overtime is a huge waste of player time and the people maintaining overtime, just rush to crystal and spam guard and heals to hold it in place indefinitely.

[Lammas]

There's nothing wrong with overtime as a mechanic but I really wish the game made it easier to determine which team is ahead when you're going to it. The UI at the top is always the same independent of which team you're in and it should totally flip the Astra and Umbra the other way around when you're on team Umbra.

Also some LBs are almost designed for overtime so just plain removing it would require a lot of rework in other areas. Just because you're ahead going into overtime doesn't mean you deserve the win. An overtime teamwipe can be somewhat played around to avoid it if you're ahead when going into overtime. If you don't then that's kinda on you and your team to not use your advantageous position.

Having said that, screw 50-50 overtime tho. More often than not that situation is going to take longer than the actual match to resolve.

[Iyrnwaen]

Overtime is such an antifun mechanic that literally saps all skill out of the game. It's inconsistent at best, and total ragebait at worse. Losing the game and the enemy's about to win? Burst2win with a Dancer into literally any aoe LB and just win. Enemy has such a long respawn time that you've already won before they respawn.

Seriously, it's a terrible mechanic. PVP is incredibly improved but if you're gonna have oneshot limitbreaks and absurd stunlocks, atleast design the game around it and don't have "lol you were losing but the enemy made 1 mistake during overtime so now you win" mechanic.

The game would be awful without OT. What are you even suggesting to replace it? The match just ends at 5 minutes no matter what's going on?
OT only happens because the teams are evenly matched enough that neither can push to goal outright in the time allotted, so the game goes into sudden death.
It's often the best part of any match. I had a match yesterday that lasted 18 minutes, and it was the most enjoyable, adrenaline fueled madness I've experienced in CC yet.

Also, DNC is easily the worst job in the game. It's even worse than GNB and RPR. No idea where you were going with that comment.