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    Quote Originally Posted by Mika_Zahard View Post
    I find all these bot clicking apologists both funny and pathethic.

    Glad SE decided to not benefit people that are autoclicking or camping a placard for an untold amount of time for a house. And thankfully relocations dont have priority anymore!

    What I find strange. Is now the whole server has the same chance for an individual house. It is 100% fair. It is horrible also, but everyone gets to share the same horribleness. And when they add new wards, we can all share in the horribleness all over again. It is the bad design that is shared by everyone, not just the fast net connection and the no lifer clickers or cheater bots. We all get to stand in the same pile equally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonlite View Post
    What I find strange. Is now the whole server has the same chance for an individual house. It is 100% fair. It is horrible also, but everyone gets to share the same horribleness. And when they add new wards, we can all share in the horribleness all over again. It is the bad design that is shared by everyone, not just the fast net connection and the no lifer clickers or cheater bots. We all get to stand in the same pile equally.
    I like how our MO is to just keep conceding to Square Enix that this is the best they can do and that they'll just forever add more wards; and they should never stop doing that and just make instanced housing instead (because they absolutely can.) It's very clear that people don't want smalls, they will never be happy with just smalls and for good reason; why should we just say "ok, well youre not entitled to a bigger house in this game you pay to play" shouldn't it be fun? Shouldnt you actually be able to work towards a goal?

    Why should we admit that its horrible and let that remain the standard? Does it being absolute garbage make you feel immersed? Maybe more people should be asking for instanced housing/homesteads lol
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    Last edited by Corvus_V; 05-28-2022 at 04:12 PM.
    yeah, i'll give him the wrap. but foist, i gotta wrap this FISH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus_V View Post
    I like how our MO is to just keep conceding to Square Enix that this is the best they can do and that they'll just forever add more wards; and they should never stop doing that and just make instanced housing instead (because they absolutely can.) It's very clear that people don't want smalls, they will never be happy with just smalls and for good reason; why should we just say "ok, well youre not entitled to a bigger house in this game you pay to play" shouldn't it be fun? Shouldnt you actually be able to work towards a goal?

    Why should we admit that its horrible and let that remain the standard? Does it being absolute garbage make you feel immersed? Maybe more people should be asking for instanced housing/homesteads lol

    I have many posts about why SE should do something about the housing system. We are 8 years in. SE refuses to do anything, even when it means going back on their word. We have been ignored and they have looked bad. They still refused to do anything. They created one of the worst, if not the worst housing system in any MMO. Still refused to fix it.



    I don't think they are doing the best they can. I just know they don't care, about us. People claim be nice to the dev team, they are people. Yet ignore the fact that players have had eight years of someone not listening and not caring that what they do is bothering some one. Then to make matters worse and it is even in this thread, SE apologists belittling the hurt. Maybe I am just resigned that we can all suffer equally at least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonlite View Post
    I have many posts about why SE should do something about the housing system. We are 8 years in. SE refuses to do anything, even when it means going back on their word. We have been ignored and they have looked bad. They still refused to do anything. They created one of the worst, if not the worst housing system in any MMO. Still refused to fix it.
    They really need to fix it instead of band-aid patching it. 8 years and it's still like this? Yikes. The lottery doesn't address the underlying issue of insufficient housing supply. 75% of wards being FC only for a good while certainly doesn't help. The demand for private housing is greater, people want to have full freedom to decorate their own lot. They should have inversed the ratio for wards or at least made it 50/50. Or better yet, just make instanced housing already.

    Super frustrating when my retainers give me exterior furnishings I'll likely never get to use. This is one of the biggest MMOs on the market, the housing system shouldn't be this poor. Other MMOs I played guaranteed I'd have a house at some point, this one's the outlier. It really stinks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoisonBerries View Post
    They really need to fix it instead of band-aid patching it. 8 years and it's still like this? Yikes. The lottery doesn't address the underlying issue of insufficient housing supply. 75% of wards being FC only for a good while certainly doesn't help. The demand for private housing is greater, people want to have full freedom to decorate their own lot. They should have inversed the ratio for wards or at least made it 50/50. Or better yet, just make instanced housing already.

    Super frustrating when my retainers give me exterior furnishings I'll likely never get to use. This is one of the biggest MMOs on the market, the housing system shouldn't be this poor. Other MMOs I played guaranteed I'd have a house at some point, this one's the outlier. It really stinks.
    I'm genuinely leaning more on the "just make instanced housing" side; and I fervently believe everyone who realizes this is an issue should as well.
    I think it's no secret that people who own houses don't really want the smalls. Of all the plots, the smalls are the only ones that actually just don't go quickly; they typically just get snatched up by shells and people who want to sell FC houses later. They really give a pitiful amount of space and their item limit is restricting. If people want medium and large plots and they can afford them (based on the math of rough average large bids per 5 residential wards we got on aether) we'd need roughly 20 more wards between all the housing zones to serve them all, and that data is probably skewed in that a lot of people actually also just don't actually like The Goblet.

    Rather than just deciding its "OK" to shaft people who want a larger house because a smaller one or an apartment is available, they should just make instanced homesteads so no one has any actual reason to complain. At that point, you could own any house size you want in an isolated "middle of nowhere" plot. Maybe you could even pick the backdrop? As long as it allows gardening and outdoor furnishing as well as inside, it wouldn't be any different than a neighborhood setting one considering most of the time spent in wards you aren't even interacting with people unless you're deliberately going to a specific venue. Even then, if someone wants to host a venue, why not just assign it an ID people can use to visit it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravor View Post
    sorry for ranting like this guys
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    yeah, i'll give him the wrap. but foist, i gotta wrap this FISH.

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