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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyth View Post
    No, I didn't even quote you. I dismissed several very similar posts that were devoid of substance with a single line, and then moved on. If you think that something that I write applies to you, great. If it doesn't, also great. I'm going to have to go with Frey's words on this:

    'For I speak only for myself. If you find comfort in my words, they are yours for the taking, but that is your choice. Now and ever after, as it has always been.'
    You started your post by seemingly commenting on mine - the only other reply on the topic was KageTokage's, which didn't even really try to generalize anything, so that first line makes no sense if it was also addressed to them - and then in your third paragraph said "the fact that you're here on an active account six months later", singular.

    If you weren't trying to talk to me, you can't really blame me for being confused.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rulakir View Post
    Do you have examples? Genuinely curious because everyone I've spoken to who doesn't like Venat doesn't due to her actions not who or what she is. As for racism, I've only seen it directed towards Ancients as a whole, not specifically Venat.
    To be clear, when I say that people have reactions to Venat that come across as a little misogynistic, I don't mean that their stated reason for disliking her is because she's a woman. However, some of the surrounding discourse can get a little weird in its tone. While some of the points people make about Venat's gender versus how she was approached by the writers and responded to by the playerbase have grounding in reality - I do think it's obvious the scenario team softens its female characters disproportionately to the men and avoids certain archetypes or presentations of moral complexity with them outright, which is a kind of casual misogyny itself - I've seen people make statements about how the issues with her are a symptom of writers trying to force-insert strong female characters into stories, which I can't really agree with.

    Racism was probably too strong a word, but I do find it offputting how much some more extreme fans of the Ancients seem to be echoing some supremacist concepts when talking about them versus the Sundered, especially when it comes to the relative value of their lives. One of the things I found weirdest about the scenario in Endwalker was how it seemed keen to dehumanizing the Ancients for their inherent characteristics, and seeing that employed the other way outside of the setting makes me just as uneasy.
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    Last edited by Lurina; 05-26-2022 at 12:02 PM.