Still waiting for SAM changes to be reverted

[TyrAtatoskr]

That’s your problem for limiting yourself & remaining idle all because of some few changes,

You can still play SAM since it is not deemed dead as many declared to be.

You’ll burnt out the more eager you plead for reverting changes request.

Although I am not stranger to this, do as you will

im in the same boat OP is. i found SAM so fun that i can hardly stomach the game at all since it's been neutered. I haven't even completed the patch storyline.

[Ruminous]

That’s your problem for limiting yourself & remaining idle all because of some few changes,

You can still play SAM since it is not deemed dead as many declared to be.

You’ll burnt out the more eager you plead for reverting changes request.

Although I am not stranger to this, do as you will

Trolls gonna troll. Make sure you ignore this man, people!

[Soge01]

Haven't touched the job since the changes. Tried for 2 minutes and felt my brain shut off for a split second and never went back to it.

I at least like a little thinking in my jobs. If I wanted to not think at all and go ham with a powerful job, I'd do that with Summoner. Which I do, when I'm too tired to think.

[Kaseladen]

Its been 6 weeks, fix the class already

[KurenXIV]

Its been 6 weeks, fix the class already

SE: Best I can do is BLM PVP buffs

[sadlol]

[Coletergeist]

Just adapt they say. I'm sorry, I can't get over jobs being butchered as they have been recently and just being okay with it. Feedback is important, so feedback they will get. We pay for this game, I expect our feedback to be taken into consideration and respected at the very least. Players won't just simply stand idle and give SE a pat on the back for making jobs more simple, for a game with a subscription.

I don't even play SAM, and I'm upset for them.
Although I'm still salty for what they've done to SMN, and forever will be until there's also a change for that.
Scared for future AST.

It's not a strange concept to be upset over recent changes. And to be scared of future changes.

[Daechir]

As someone who has played mainly SAM since it's release. What exactly is it that has made SAM unplayable for People?? Genuinely curious because with the exception of Kaiten removal (which was just a boring oGCD and I'm glad it's gone) I don't really understand what has made the class "unplayable."

[Ruminous]

As someone who has played mainly SAM since it's release. What exactly is it that has made SAM unplayable for People?? Genuinely curious because with the exception of Kaiten removal (which was just a boring oGCD and I'm glad it's gone) I don't really understand what has made the class "unplayable."

So I'll humor you because it looks like you haven't read any other threads. People like big hits, they like winding up damage, they like having to think about their play. Pick a reason, you'll find plenty. Me? I think the class plays like a discount half-assed monk. Instead of blitzing, you iaijutsu after your GCDs with the occasional shorter GCDs for a double love tap. Kenki meter? Why does it exist? See shinten light up, hit it. Sure looks awesome stabbing things with a katana every 7 seconds, huh? Stabbing with a katana. Exciting.

My allusion if you didn't catch it is it plays too similarly to monk, with the exception that it's slower so you have the time to think about what you need to do for the same results of a monk. Monk's fast, flurry of hits, has forbidden chakra as an oGCD, has a CD that allows you to use a big attack every so often, has a dot effect that it needs to keep applied via combo action, a damage buff by combo action...Sounds a lot like samurai, but faster, doesn't it? I mean sure forbidden chakra doesn't technically build as fast as shinten because it's more reliant on rng, but it's the same principle. You can't blitz as often as you can iaijutsu, but the principle is roughly the same. So...Where does that leave samurai again, other than being a discount monk?

I mean if you like your job being so braindead easy you could train anyone to play it as well as a master within 10-15 minutes of instruction that's fine. But samurai right now is a wholly unrewarding experience that's almost a copy-paste of another job. As kaiten was the only thing that made it not, that's a problem with the job's fundamental design. I've argued this, that the job needs a proper rework, but what we've been given now until 6.2 or the next expansion, without any word on when a change is coming, people are angry and upset about being knee-capped and told several reasons why varying on the day.

But if we're going with boring oGCD's, shinten's boring as hell. Stab for damage. Exciting. Seeing as how kenki's useless, let's just remove it. Cut it out, throw it away, so we can just do away with the kenki gauge entirely, as the only reason the kenki gauge exists now is because of shinten. We can axe senei too. Just a fire-and-forget cooldown that does laughable damage for how often you get it. Or, maybe guren, because of how infrequently you even use it due to its requirements to be actually worth using? Or, what about meditate? Why does it even exist in its current form when you have literally no reason to use it as long as active combat is going on?

[Ruminous]

Because we're only allowed 3000 characters per post, here's the rest of it. Kaiten wasn't a big brain ability, you used it at specific points. But it had synergy with the rest of the kit to dictate what you can and can't do to maximize it, which maximizing it is technically only needed if you do savage or ultimate content because of the demands it puts on the player. Pulling out a piece of the machine puts samurai in the position it is now. The opposite, an overflowing of kenki which would've necessitated more kaiten use, would've been the problem if shinten was pulled instead. Hell, people hated midare setsugekka so much they ended up making a meme rotation that Square ended up having to buff the iaijutsus and shoha just to get people to use the intended rotation. You don't see that as a problem with how they set up the class, that they didn't even think about fixing something like that? It really comes across as a hack-job that they put together because someone complained their numbers were tiny and they wanted to be good too.

But I've fallen off my point. If they want to fix samurai, then the class needs a proper rework. Something that doesn't come out of left field, has time to be digested, and processed properly, and not before a major mid patch content drop. Guess what these changes were? The literal opposite of that. And that, is why people are angry. And many of us are staring at the gear set we invested time into collecting, that is time gated by a cap, by the way, for a role that lacks the feeling that it used to have.

[Amh_Wilzuun]

That’s your problem for limiting yourself & remaining idle all because of some few changes,

You can still play SAM since it is not deemed dead as many declared to be.

You’ll burnt out the more eager you plead for reverting changes request.

Although I am not stranger to this, do as you will

It's completely fair to not play the game if your favorite job was gimped since that is a massive part of the fun factor. I'm lucky that I had other DPS jobs I enjoy besides SAM otherwise I'd probably be in the same boat. He has no obligation to give the game his time or money if it doesn't earn it