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    I do wish necroed threads would get closed. Heck, even New World has a way to close topics 30 days after no one responds to it or the post date. Some being necroed were made by trolls as it is, or so old it doesn't matter anymore.

    But that other thread needed to be closed. It did a 180 and moved so far away from FF14, I could see it from space. Was getting a bit nasty in there.

    Quote Originally Posted by gotaname1 View Post
    And what they did was *looks over notes* lock a thread initially discussing why there was a need for inclusivity advertisements because it had been deemed to run its course:


    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post5965573

    Amazing to see a moderator in action in light of recent events and non-recent events *cough bait&troll threads&necromancers cough* And people wonder why people dont feel taken seriously or take issue with how the forum is being run....
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngelCheese77 View Post
    I do wish necroed threads would get closed. Heck, even New World has a way to close topics 30 days after no one responds to it or the post date. Some being necroed were made by trolls as it is, or so old it doesn't matter anymore.

    But that other thread needed to be closed. It did a 180 and moved so far away from FF14, I could see it from space. Was getting a bit nasty in there.
    But why is it the LGBT+ thread that gets closed, and not all of the bait threads with toxic subjects. Sometimes parody is closer to truth, and becomes truth. I love it when people have a sense of humor, but we really got to get better moderation here, because some of the hateful sounding troll threads end up.. being more than just a joke.

    I wonder as an LGBT+ person if what that moderator did wasn't in the best taste. I know on reddit its always the queer/trans/racial threads that get locked first. As soon as there is one comment, nope, its locked. End of discussion. I don't like that mentality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    But why is it the LGBT+ thread that gets closed, and not all of the bait threads with toxic subjects.
    Regrettably, without sufficient moderation, posting about LGBT+ on this forum is a bait thread with a toxic subject. Even if the original poster has genuine good intent, all the anti-supporters and trolls come to it and the mods let it simmer for days if not weeks.

    (Edit to add: This is not to say it isn't a bad thing that they choose to ignore so many other threads while closing that one. But they aren't just picking on a topic that gets discussed nicely.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Regrettably, without sufficient moderation, posting about LGBT+ on this forum is a bait thread with a toxic subject. Even if the original poster has genuine good intent, all the anti-supporters and trolls come to it and the mods let it simmer for days if not weeks.

    (Edit to add: This is not to say it isn't a bad thing that they choose to ignore so many other threads while closing that one. But they aren't just picking on a topic that gets discussed nicely.)
    The thing is, they have ignored all the hate threads about women, toxic masculinity, and alt right views, but selectively picked the LGBT+ forum post to close. It's a common mindset that straight people have, and while it often means well, it can be harmful, and limiting to discussion. Often the haters will strawman the idea that they won, and got the LGBT+ thread closed. I already saw people saying that on here. The moderators should take a step back and make sure that they aren't just shutting down LGBT+ pages that get out of hand, but also shutting down the straight ones, or else you're just unknowingly adding to the piles of rampant homophobia, racism, transphobia, and sexism in our game community.

    On top of that, they need to make a firm stance that homophobia, racism, transphobia, and sexism are NOT allowed period. We know its in the ToS, but unless they actually come out of the woodwork and say it once in awhile, these hateful minded people will often act like they are entitled to be awful to us for whatever stupid reason they can come up with. Like I said, even when its parody, it often mimics, and becomes reality. It's very common for things to be a joke for awhile, and then suddenly become real, or for it to already be real. I wish people were more aware of this, and made smarter behavior choices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    The thing is, they have ignored all the hate threads about women, toxic masculinity, and alt right views, but selectively picked the LGBT+ forum post to close. It\\'s a common mindset that straight people have, and while it often means well, it can be harmful, and limiting to discussion. Often the haters will strawman the idea that they won, and got the LGBT+ thread closed. I already saw people saying that on here. The moderators should take a step back and make sure that they aren\\'t just shutting down LGBT+ pages that get out of hand, but also shutting down the straight ones, or else you\\'re just unknowingly adding to the piles of rampant homophobia, racism, transphobia, and sexism in our game community.

    On top of that, they need to make a firm stance that homophobia, racism, transphobia, and sexism are NOT allowed period. We know its in the ToS, but unless they actually come out of the woodwork and say it once in awhile, these hateful minded people will often act like they are entitled to be awful to us for whatever stupid reason they can come up with. Like I said, even when its parody, it often mimics, and becomes reality. It\\'s very common for things to be a joke for awhile, and then suddenly become real, or for it to already be real. I wish people were more aware of this, and made smarter behavior choices.
    Crazy thought here, but their use to be a people who had this thing called free speech, I know it's wild I mean who was there to censor them when they said something I didn't like, but anyways these barbarians use to say whatever they wanted as long as they weren't death threats.

    I can't speak for others but I'm sure glad that free speech nonsense is on its way out, I mean it's worse then murder or physical abuse or people starving when someone sais something I think should be banned, sure glad things are different now, we're heading towards a better world my friend, one barbarian silenced at a time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VictorTheed View Post
    Crazy thought here, but their use to be a people who had this thing called free speech, I know it's wild I mean who was there to censor them when they said something I didn't like, but anyways these barbarians use to say whatever they wanted as long as they weren't death threats.

    I can't speak for others but I'm sure glad that free speech nonsense is on its way out, I mean it's worse then murder or physical abuse or people starving when someone sais something I think should be banned, sure glad things are different now, we're heading towards a better world my friend, one barbarian silenced at a time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VictorTheed View Post
    Crazy thought here, but their use to be a people who had this thing called free speech, I know it's wild I mean who was there to censor them when they said something I didn't like, but anyways these barbarians use to say whatever they wanted as long as they weren't death threats.

    I can't speak for others but I'm sure glad that free speech nonsense is on its way out, I mean it's worse then murder or physical abuse or people starving when someone sais something I think should be banned, sure glad things are different now, we're heading towards a better world my friend, one barbarian silenced at a time.
    This post is barbaric in its own way
    I'm sure this could have been rephrased
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nav_Fae View Post
    This post is barbaric in its own way
    I'm sure this could have been rephrased
    assuming you're not trolling, by saying that, you've just proved his point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nav_Fae View Post
    This post is barbaric in its own way
    I'm sure this could have been rephrased
    Titanwoman can learn from this post!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngelCheese77 View Post
    I do wish necroed threads would get closed. Heck, even New World has a way to close topics 30 days after no one responds to it or the post date.
    I think that's a feature of the technology the forums run on TBH. All of Blizzard's forums and I think Lost Ark as well use the same one and they all mention that topics close after 30 days or so.
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