So what's up with the culture of "one person left therefore all must leave" in PF?

[Hysorn]

So, I am not sure if this is an Aether thing but... Damn, progging savage on PF is a nightmare. Everyone's steadily learning, slowly getting better, then someone DCs or you know, Billy quits because he has to take a piece of aluminum off his Microwave and then boom, everyone just leaves and you are back to looking for a new group with new people that have no clue to what's happening and then you have to wait/help everyone to learn again for the same thing to happen and the cycle continues...

Like damn guys, stick around, I know the fights aren't the most fun when you aren't talking to people on Discord, I usually don't have fun progging with randoms either but...

Been trying to clear P2S on Pratice groups for almost a month now, it's super demoralizing.

[Risvertasashi]

Sometimes it's that the group was underperforming in some way, but no one else wanted to confront the problematic person or people, nor did they want to be the first to leave.

Sometimes it's that people are out of time, or need to get food, or some such and someone leaving is just a reminder of "Oh yeah I should go do those things."

And... sometimes the group can be performing strongly, and wasn't going for long at all before someone leaves and it still happens. That one still baffles me.

[Nihility]

often times a lot of people want to leave but fear the queue cooldown so don't. Being the one that gets the punishment really is the only thing keeping people in line after all
As soon as the person that is so fed up they don't care at all leaves they are given the opening to do so as well
then if the party dwindles enough other people that were fine are now shaky that so many spots need to be filled and leave as well

it's not the most complicated thing really

[Hysorn]

often times a lot of people want to leave but fear the queue cooldown so don't. Being the one that gets the punishment really is the only thing keeping people in line after all
As soon as the person that is so fed up they don't care at all leaves they are given the opening to do so as well
then if the party dwindles enough other people that were fine are now shaky that so many spots need to be filled and leave as well

it's not the most complicated thing really

I get it that's is not complicated, what I don't understand why it seems to be such a regular occurrence, you don't have to just alt f4, you can say that you have to do something and therefore gotta leave, people aren't going to find your IRL and make you disappear for doing so, what baffles is me that people just follow suit after someone leaves and then you sometimes meet half of the people you were doing stuff with on a new group and you just gotta ask yourself "Why didn't you just stuck around the group that was 90% filled with people doing stuff right?"

[Hysorn]

Sometimes it's that the group was underperforming in some way, but no one else wanted to confront the problematic person or people, nor did they want to be the first to leave.

Sometimes it's that people are out of time, or need to get food, or some such and someone leaving is just a reminder of "Oh yeah I should go do those things."

And... sometimes the group can be performing strongly, and wasn't going for long at all before someone leaves and it still happens. That one still baffles me.

That's the thing though, I don't often see a group that has a a handful of people REALLY struggling with mechanics, most are fine and you see them improving with each pull. Like, my best bet is that people just lose the hype after the first instance is closed and just want to leave but then I wonder why people joined if they didn't want to see it through.

[DixieBellOCE]

Sometimes it's that the group was underperforming in some way, but no one else wanted to confront the problematic person or people, nor did they want to be the first to leave.

Sometimes it's that people are out of time, or need to get food, or some such and someone leaving is just a reminder of "Oh yeah I should go do those things."

And... sometimes the group can be performing strongly, and wasn't going for long at all before someone leaves and it still happens. That one still baffles me.

More along the lines of..

Your not allowed to confront the problematic person because that is seen as a form of harassment in this game.

So stupid.

[SturmChurro]

Different factors: Herd mentality, people trying to be polite, avoiding confrontation, etc. People don't want to be the first to leave, and that's why often times when they are, they come up with an excuse to justify it.

[Nethereal]

It's because the people who left already wanted to leave but they didn't want to be the ones to leave first.

[Semirhage]

Easy. Problem-solving is evil wicked filthy heretical PARSING and such toxicity isn't allowed in this game.

The passive-aggressive silent treatment, blacklists, indignant flouncing out of duties, that makes for a stable, healthy community.

[Novae]

Just set a clear for 1, any chest/page run/bring your alt jobs to incite bored veterans to join and help you get your clear. Then you'll be out of this nightmare and ready for the next reclear evening.