So what's up with the culture of "one person left therefore all must leave" in PF?

[Yeastyloins]

Yep. It's better to leave him confused why people leave and ignorant. Such GCBTW, much not-WOW.

But I heard that the sand can be really comforting when you have your head buried in it.

[AngelCheese77]

Yep. It's better to leave him confused why people leave and ignorant. Such GCBTW, much not-WOW.

First they didn’t ask. Secondly you made it sound like a fact it’s them and no other option. Third you are so passive agressive I could taste it. I’ve had players leave w/o saying a thing in duties we were winning or losing in.

Granted the way players are report happy over the slightest word when chatting is why I think no one says anything. Telling a tank to use their stance can be seen as “harassment” and reported though it’s a basic mechanic.

Maybe learn to give your thoughts better and not rudely. Not what you say but how you say it. Perhaps the OP does have an issue moving their fingers? Perhaps they are colorblind and miss the cues on the ground. Or like my husband who has ADHD, the OP might have issues focusing.

Perhaps you could look into Stone, Sea, Sky to improve? Maybe find or create a static of newbies looking to try such fights OP?

BTW this has nothing to do with “GCBTW”. Just realizing there is a human on the other side of the screen. Not a robot

[Reinha]

I get bored easily and I basically stay in the group to be polite until someone else leaves. That's when I leave too because you have to replace people anyways.

[DontReadThis]

Because most of the time they did want to leave, but they didn't want to be the first one to go.
Sometimes it's incredibly obvious that a group will not get the clear or make any progress, such as when there are 1 or 2 people constantly making mistakes on specific mechanics which end up wiping the group.
Some people fear confrontation, so they are hesitant to call them out, so they just wait until someone leaves first.

[Hysorn]

So, I hope you've had enough sugarcoating and false reassurance from the previous posts. Because I'm about to slam you with some harsh reality.

The reason why others often leave your party is... Yourself. There is indeed a culture of leaving the party at the earliest opportunity without saying anything instead of addressing the underperforming player if you aren't satisfied. Whether you prefer this or not, this is the way many will act. Now, people often leave your party and there is a common element between all of them - you. A cursory glance at the couple of P1S kills you have tells me that you are indeed the underperforming player. You might do mechanics right but it is obvious you struggle pressing buttons while doing so.

If you are looking for genuine advice, start practicing the very basics - GCD uptime. Maybe even in less demanding content like Aglaia. Doing both mechanics and a somewhat competent rotation at the same time is the fundamental you are missing.

Dayum, keyboard warrior got worked up.

Now funny thing is, I have two P1S clears, first one I did blind as a Ninja, second one I did with a group of friends playing WAR with a controller because of a wrist injury while super pissed off because I couldn't build the controller muscle memory, so yes, I played terribly on both. P2S however, ain't the case, aside from my first blind run while all my friends knew all the mechanics and had their own tactics, been playing normally and in most PF groups I am one of the few who knows the whole fight. While I appreciate your extremely superficial analyze based on a handful of data, it's extremely wrong on how I play overall. Am I a great player that aspires to run ultimates 16h a day? No. But I am decent enough to clear most content despite having to deal with 250ms that makes snapshotting rather unforgiving.

[Packetdancer]

I'll admit sometimes I think people bounce too early; in my experience, PF prog often takes a pull or two for the group to gel; people have been in this tower or had this spread spot in their previous two PF groups and so they head there habitually, etc. If you're in a P4S group that's progging something in phase 2 and you bounce when people die to Pinax on the first pull, that's maybe a little excessive of a reaction. If you're six or seven pulls in, though, I admit I start to feel a little frustrated if the group isn't getting anywhere near the mechanic that is, in theory, being practiced/progged.

Still, I'll stick around longer than many; I've seen groups gel when one or two leave and then get replaced, and folks go back in. I had a P4S group some while back that was not getting anywhere near phase 1 enrage when it was supposed to be an Act III cleanup group. One person threw shade and bounced, another followed them... we waited, got two more, and the group actually made it to Curtain Call before someone had to leave due to RL.

But if you lose half of the group, and then I look at PF and there's another group waiting on just a healer to pop back in? Yeah, in those cases I may bounce as well and shift groups, in order to not have to wait around another half an hour to get four more people before we can go back in.

[Saraide]

I can only speak for my own reasoning. If I join a farm party that's struggling then I will probably just leave and likely not be the only one. If things are going great however I often times dont want to disrupt that so I stay for a few more runs than I would have otherwise. I do that to not kick the party back to recruiting new people but when someone else leaves then reason is no longer there so I just leave aswell.

[Rongway]

Your not allowed to confront the problematic person because that is seen as a form of harassment in this game.

So stupid.

You are allowed to tell the problematic person how to fix their problems so that they are no longer the problematic person. You're just not allowed to be a jerk while you do it.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

From my pretty limited PF experiences, I think it’s really random outside those times where the weak links of the 8 players were painfully obvious.

Personally I see it’s reasonable enough to expect at least 3 pulls at minimum. In real life do happens, after all.

PFs do be like that sometimes.

[Somnolence]

You are allowed to tell the problematic person how to fix their problems so that they are no longer the problematic person. You're just not allowed to be a jerk while you do it.

Expecting other people waste their limited gaming time teaching in a content where preparation is expected is very toxic attitude.

Its not like the knowledge about the game is hidden away, fight guides and job fundamentals can be easily found on Youtube and all endgame rotations and gearing in The Balance discord server.