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  1. #21
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    Krow Baelfire
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    Sooo 10 Days to claim a free house..

    I would say the housing problems are clearly a Poopshow at this point. People who lost a house are still going to be unable to even bid on a house until {gasp} people getting a free home claim their plot in an additional 10 day period. sorry but at this point if a free home and the month wait hasn't made you want to rush and claim your plot in a regular 4 day window, well then do you really need a house? Ridiculous. Perhaps between now and the middle of June they will find another way to drag this out. Yes, I know people work... nice try, but the normal window cycle is more than enough at this point. I feel the cult leaders at Enix are just pointing and laughing at us.
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  2. #22
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    Will Irishclover
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    So wait is everyone with a 'o' bug just refunding for a free house?
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  3. #23
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    Teaudix Suidoreux
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aoi_Futaba View Post
    There is a solution. People like myself are now basically placed on an honour system. So why not have the NPC reward players for their honesty, whether a small funny title like 'Out of the Brume' or something like that, something that is not impactful but nice to have.
    But then you gonna hear people scream but I cant get this title. Its unfair. Boohoo. I want this title too and so on.
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  4. #24
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    Maeve Kirkland
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yodada View Post
    But then you gonna hear people scream but I cant get this title. Its unfair. Boohoo. I want this title too and so on.
    And they will be justified in saying so.

    It’s not like an ultimate where if you apply yourself harder you can complete and get the title. This title would be 100% RNG based.
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    Oriana Alesong
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    Maduin
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    To be truly fair, they need to offer a title to those of us who bid but lost fair and square.

    In all seriousness, this is probably the most equitable of solutions for those who were effected by the error. I’ll be happy for the fcs that get their new housing next week.
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  6. #26
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    Yureka Unkara
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    best way for this round only, would be to remove the payment at the placard
    you need to turn in your winning ticket at the NPC and pay the gil for the plot you won
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  7. #27
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    Ultimately whats going to happen is a load of people will now get free houses, we all read the update , whats done is done, refund the gil and get a free house seems to be the message they have sent.


    SE probably went with this as the solution which was the fairest.
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    Last edited by WillIrishclover; 05-14-2022 at 02:48 AM.

  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by WillIrishclover View Post
    Ultimately whats going to happen is a load of people will now get free houses, we all read the update , whats done is done, refund the gil and get a free house seems to be the message they have sent.


    SE probably went with this as the solution which was the fairest.
    How is it any way fair?

    People who won a house, they have a house and 3-50 mil less gil.
    People who didn’t win a house have been unable to try again for almost two months and don’t get any compensation for that, and still don’t have a house.
    People who won but got bugged have a free house now.

    This is unfair to the vast majority, the players with no house. And it’s unfair to those who paid for a house.
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  9. #29
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    Teaudix Suidoreux
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaeveHatesHousing View Post
    How is it any way fair?

    People who won a house, they have a house and 3-50 mil less gil.
    People who didn’t win a house have been unable to try again for almost two months and don’t get any compensation for that, and still don’t have a house.
    People who won but got bugged have a free house now.

    This is unfair to the vast majority, the players with no house. And it’s unfair to those who paid for a house.
    Whats your alternative then? Crying because the had choosen the less damaging way for this issue?

    a) Get rid of housing altogether?

    b) get rid of personal housing because it was intended for FCs from the get go?

    c) invest even more dev time to fix and code a "pay again screen" for all who refunded so it could potentially be solved in whatever timeframe they have to deal with. Would be funny to see if they chosen this way and it would take a year or more to solve the spaghetti code from the lottery. Imagine the outcry of the Playerbase to the already happening outcry.

    d) reroll everything from anyone in regards of housing to the starting point? Imagine the outcry of people/FCs who could upgrade their small or medium house or got a completely new plot for them or their FC.

    e) reroll every bugged house again even if there were legit winners but werent shown because the lottery server didnt update the Housing server?

    They had to die on one hill and they cant win not matter which one they chosen. The OF will cry and whine and stomp on the floor anyway.
    The only solution is to pressure them for additional wards or instanced personal housing. Everthing else will upset people like you anyway no matter what they are gonna do.
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    Last edited by Yodada; 05-14-2022 at 03:54 AM.

  10. #30
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    Will Irishclover
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yodada View Post
    Whats your alternative then? Crying because the had choosen the less damaging way for this issue?

    a) Get rid of housing altogether?

    b) get rid of personal housing because it was intended for FCs from the get go?

    c) invest even more dev time fo fix and code a "pay again screen" for all who refunded so it could potentially be solved in whatever timeframe they have to deal with. Would be funny to see if they chosen this way and it would take a year or more to solve the spaghetti code from the lottery. Imagine the outcry of the Playerbase to the already happening outcry.

    d) reroll everything from anyone in regards of housing to the starting point? Imagine the outcry of people/FCs who could upgrade their small or medium house or got a completely new plot for them or their FC.

    e) reroll every bugged house again even if there were legit winners but werent shown because the lottery server didnt update the Housing server?

    They had to die on one hill and they cant win not matter which one the chosen. The OF will cry and whine and stomp on the floor anyway.
    The only solution is to pressure them for additional wards or instanced personal housing. Everthing else will upset people like you anyway no matter what they are gonna do.
    100% this

    What was square supposed to do? Yes everyone who got a 'O' plot basically can now get a free house, but every other solution would have pissed someone off, this was the only way to make sure valid winners got their houses and so the game could MOVE on from this.

    you are completely right
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