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    Quote Originally Posted by Yodada View Post
    But then you gonna hear people scream but I cant get this title. Its unfair. Boohoo. I want this title too and so on.
    And they will be justified in saying so.

    It’s not like an ultimate where if you apply yourself harder you can complete and get the title. This title would be 100% RNG based.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaeveHatesHousing View Post
    And they will be justified in saying so.

    It’s not like an ultimate where if you apply yourself harder you can complete and get the title. This title would be 100% RNG based.
    Oh so you're saying have to put in work and suffering in order to achieve it, like people have had for weeks with barely any input as to what will happen? You can't complain about this and also complain about the people who got screwed over by SE's messup getting their house for free. When EW got delayed everyone with an active account got free playtime, so by your logic it's ok for those that were waiting for EW before renewing sub to cry that they didn't get free playtime. And as for RNG based, you mean like drops? Which the game has, 'whaaaa they got the shiny mount on first run and I've been trying for hundreds and not got it whaaaaaaaaa'
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    Last edited by Aoi_Futaba; 05-14-2022 at 03:38 AM.

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    best way for this round only, would be to remove the payment at the placard
    you need to turn in your winning ticket at the NPC and pay the gil for the plot you won
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    "The only dependable thing about the future is uncertainty"
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    Ultimately whats going to happen is a load of people will now get free houses, we all read the update , whats done is done, refund the gil and get a free house seems to be the message they have sent.


    SE probably went with this as the solution which was the fairest.
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    Last edited by WillIrishclover; 05-14-2022 at 02:48 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WillIrishclover View Post
    Ultimately whats going to happen is a load of people will now get free houses, we all read the update , whats done is done, refund the gil and get a free house seems to be the message they have sent.


    SE probably went with this as the solution which was the fairest.
    How is it any way fair?

    People who won a house, they have a house and 3-50 mil less gil.
    People who didn’t win a house have been unable to try again for almost two months and don’t get any compensation for that, and still don’t have a house.
    People who won but got bugged have a free house now.

    This is unfair to the vast majority, the players with no house. And it’s unfair to those who paid for a house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaeveHatesHousing View Post
    How is it any way fair?

    People who won a house, they have a house and 3-50 mil less gil.
    People who didn’t win a house have been unable to try again for almost two months and don’t get any compensation for that, and still don’t have a house.
    People who won but got bugged have a free house now.

    This is unfair to the vast majority, the players with no house. And it’s unfair to those who paid for a house.
    Whats your alternative then? Crying because the had choosen the less damaging way for this issue?

    a) Get rid of housing altogether?

    b) get rid of personal housing because it was intended for FCs from the get go?

    c) invest even more dev time to fix and code a "pay again screen" for all who refunded so it could potentially be solved in whatever timeframe they have to deal with. Would be funny to see if they chosen this way and it would take a year or more to solve the spaghetti code from the lottery. Imagine the outcry of the Playerbase to the already happening outcry.

    d) reroll everything from anyone in regards of housing to the starting point? Imagine the outcry of people/FCs who could upgrade their small or medium house or got a completely new plot for them or their FC.

    e) reroll every bugged house again even if there were legit winners but werent shown because the lottery server didnt update the Housing server?

    They had to die on one hill and they cant win not matter which one they chosen. The OF will cry and whine and stomp on the floor anyway.
    The only solution is to pressure them for additional wards or instanced personal housing. Everthing else will upset people like you anyway no matter what they are gonna do.
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    Last edited by Yodada; 05-14-2022 at 03:54 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yodada View Post
    Whats your alternative then? Crying because the had choosen the less damaging way for this issue?

    a) Get rid of housing altogether?

    b) get rid of personal housing because it was intended for FCs from the get go?

    c) invest even more dev time fo fix and code a "pay again screen" for all who refunded so it could potentially be solved in whatever timeframe they have to deal with. Would be funny to see if they chosen this way and it would take a year or more to solve the spaghetti code from the lottery. Imagine the outcry of the Playerbase to the already happening outcry.

    d) reroll everything from anyone in regards of housing to the starting point? Imagine the outcry of people/FCs who could upgrade their small or medium house or got a completely new plot for them or their FC.

    e) reroll every bugged house again even if there were legit winners but werent shown because the lottery server didnt update the Housing server?

    They had to die on one hill and they cant win not matter which one the chosen. The OF will cry and whine and stomp on the floor anyway.
    The only solution is to pressure them for additional wards or instanced personal housing. Everthing else will upset people like you anyway no matter what they are gonna do.
    100% this

    What was square supposed to do? Yes everyone who got a 'O' plot basically can now get a free house, but every other solution would have pissed someone off, this was the only way to make sure valid winners got their houses and so the game could MOVE on from this.

    you are completely right
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yodada View Post
    They had to die on one hill and they cant win not matter which one the chosen. The OF will cry and whine and stomp on the floor anyway.
    The only solution is to pressure them for additional wards or instanced personal housing. Everthing else will upset people like you anyway no matter what they are gonna do.
    Personally I think wards should be for players and instanced islands for FCs. A place where the FC can have their own space, but wards where players can have neighbours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaeveHatesHousing View Post
    How is it any way fair?

    People who won a house, they have a house and 3-50 mil less gil.
    People who didn’t win a house have been unable to try again for almost two months and don’t get any compensation for that, and still don’t have a house.
    People who won but got bugged have a free house now.

    This is unfair to the vast majority, the players with no house. And it’s unfair to those who paid for a house.
    Oh lord. Look, if a handful of people get a free house because of SE's screw up, so be it. I paid full price for both the FC's house and my personal house. I am not sitting here kvetching that some people got their plots bugged, had to sit for a month waiting for SE to fix it, and were low key compensated for it by not being made to pay for the house.

    PS: Life is not fair.
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    Don't you have something better to do with your life?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nepentha View Post
    Oh lord. Look, if a handful of people get a free house because of SE's screw up, so be it. I paid full price for both the FC's house and my personal house. I am not sitting here kvetching that some people got their plots bugged, had to sit for a month waiting for SE to fix it, and were low key compensated for it by not being made to pay for the house.

    PS: Life is not fair.
    This is a game. It can be MADE fair.

    I don’t care that they get a house. Good for them.

    I care that I DONT get a house.
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