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  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    The number of people who win a house and who have withdrawn their gil is going to be very small. In addition some will pay when the time comes. It is a perfect solution no but given the issues of getting an npc ready the alternative would have been to hold up the lottery rounds until 6.2 and that's not going to happen. It's already taken way to long to get this issue resolved hopefully on the 16th.

    Lets hope there aren't any additional issues then.
    This isn't true, I know a ton of '0' winners who didint refund out of fear, with the news that refunding = a free house, now refunding.

    it will be a very large amount in some wards with free houses.

    Not that im opposed to this but im being honest here. This update was a big roundabout way of SE saying those effected by the '0' bug will get their house for free, in a very PR flowery way. As much as I see it as the only choice they could make, this will make up a large amount of affected '0' plots.
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    Last edited by WillIrishclover; 05-14-2022 at 10:28 AM.

  2. #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by WillIrishclover View Post
    This isn't true, I know a ton of '0' winners who didint refund out of fear, with the news that refunding = a free house, now refunding.
    So you're saying people can still get refunds? I believe that refund period is over and the system is locked down. I can't personally test it given the house I bid on didn't get the zero bug.
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  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    So you're saying people can still get refunds? I believe that refund period is over and the system locked down. I can't personally test it given the house I bid on didn't get the zero bug.
    Yes you can still get refunds, the refund period is not over nor was it ever frozen, all that was frozen was the next lottery date, Refunds are on a 5 to 6 month timer, multiple people on reddit have confirmed that they have now refunded after this news.

    edit- Let me just underline this, right now anyone who hasn't refunded on their '0' plot is in a position of walking away from a free house, that is going to be a very very small minority by the 16th.
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    Last edited by WillIrishclover; 05-14-2022 at 10:41 AM.

  4. #44
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    Seems really unfair that those who paid get nothing back, while others get a house for free cos of SE mess up. Im in a small FC and took months to get the gil together for a medium house. People should have to pay at the placard or recind their win. That would be fair.
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  5. #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryo0123
    他人の得を自分の損として計上するのは精神衛生上よくないと思いますよ。
    I don't think it's good for your mental health to see other people's gains as your loss.
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    やはり、お前は……笑顔が……イイ

  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
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    I don't think it's good for your mental health to see other people's gains as your loss.
    I agree up to a point but it must be a bitter pill to swallow if you lost the lottery. Someone gets the house you wanted for free and next round you have to pay for yours if you win.
    So I can understand why people are upset.

    The solution they've come up with is the least worst option, but it's far from ideal.

    What is the general feeling on the Japanese Forum though? Is everyone being philisophical about it or are feelings running high there too?
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  7. #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solarra View Post
    I agree up to a point but it must be a bitter pill to swallow if you lost the lottery. Someone gets the house you wanted for free and next round you have to pay for yours if you win.
    So I can understand why people are upset.

    The solution they've come up with is the least worst option, but it's far from ideal.

    What is the general feeling on the Japanese Forum though? Is everyone being philisophical about it or are feelings running high there too?
    I think of it the other way. I look at the gil from it as the way of compensation for the issue existing in the first place. Nobody including those that now benefits from it wanted the #O bug. All of them would rather pay the price and get their house right away instead of being forced to wait unknown amount of time unsure if they even got it (because that also wasn't clear unless you were the only bidder).

    And ultimately it doesn't matter. Those who lost on the bidding wouldn't get the house anyway? Why does it matter that the other side got it for free or not? Those who didn't win lost nothing.
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  8. #48
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    EW seems to be my lucky xpack in most bizarre and inflammatory fashion.

    Earlier: release delay enabled me comfortably to go visit my friend, only chance I got last year, to other side of the country and come back home to enjoy the week one with everyone else. Otherwise my visit would have gracelessly landed on launch week.

    Now, with Empyreum housing: I enlisted my FC buddy to help try upgrade my alt FCs house from small to medium. We put 2 tickets, all of our fc money at that time on nifty little med house and waited. 0 bug hit. We were the only 2 participants.

    Since I have house for that FC already, I just thought "well, I guess it was not meant to be", asked my friend to take out the money and just move on. Next chance will come.

    Sooner than I thought, though. Since some people had been able to relo to Empyreum, I noticed there was even nicer plot now free on one of the old housing wards. But by now the FC had money for 3rd ticket, so I enlisted another fc friend by bribing her with new teacup emote (first friend got mogstation emote too when bribery entered in game, no worries).

    Now it looks like the originally bid Empyreum house is free(???), + I have made money for 4th ticket, and my dye mule will buy that one I guess. So if it is only possible, I think I'll accept the Empyreum plot as failsafe upgrade, and try my luck with that nicer old housing ward plot. Yay... °˖✧◝(⁰▿⁰)◜✧˖°

    Since my scheme is so evil I am also highly considering tossing some money to that 6.2 NPC... if I have any left at that point.
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    Last edited by Burmecia; 05-15-2022 at 04:23 AM.

  9. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
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    I don't think it's good for your mental health to see other people's gains as your loss.
    When it comes to a limited resource like houses other people's gains are quite literally your loss.
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  10. #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azuri View Post
    When it comes to a limited resource like houses other people's gains are quite literally your loss.
    Then you lost the moment the RNG decided to not pick you. People who won't get the house now wouldn't get it even if there was no bug. Regardless of if SE decided to somehow deduct the Gil or not those who didn't win the lottery wouldn't get the house.The only gain those affected by bug have is Gil. Whether it's a substantial gain or not is up to anyone's interpretation
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