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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilford111 View Post
    How is this difficult? T_T

    Go ahead and use third-party addons if you aren't intruding on someone else's gameplay experience. SE will never know unless you tell someone or broadcast it to the world.

    I'm guessing it's because streamers have the loudest voice that people are so riled up about this. It's legitimately not a big deal. Streamers should know the risks they're taking by publicly breaking tos.
    A significant portion of high-end raiders stream as well, not to make money but to evaluate their own VODs to review for mistakes during progression. It's the one single third party tool that eclipses everything else: Twitch and Discord.

    And 2 viewer streams are being witch hunted and banned as well so even normal raiders are exposed to this mob hunt.
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  2. #62
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    Rude Delahayne
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skiros View Post
    Because people are sick of players who argue that are playing well without X or saying stuff like "hardcore raids can be cleared by disabled people" when they are objectively playing at a very poor level.
    No need to spy on me. I am telling you directly, I never cleared ultimate. Personally cleared most of the stuff I engaged with MIL, no echo, so your tool will claim I suck at dps, compared to the dps you did on the same content, how do you know I suck if you have no idea how you would perform with the same gear, you compare the gear, not the performence in that case. And I litterally see no objective reason to need addon (except auto calls or telegraphs that are pure cheating) that you need to clear any content. And I don't agree with the argument of "you don't know if you perform well" at all. Everyone that says they are good should be quite well aware of their skills, if you are aware of your skills you should know how much damage you have and there are pretty simple rules that work for every job, like don't overcap resources, don't keep CD skills unuesed and so on. In worse case if you can't see during battle(that would mean you are probably underperforming), you can record yourself and watch after the encounter. Last time I did MIL was with kind of random group at Eden 4, I would say progging to the enrage was total nightmare, but once we were there the boss was ending up between 35-40% and we used striking dummy and half hour to help people improve a bit (mostly muscle memory for their rotations, so they can do it easily when mechanics are happening) and we cleared after.
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    Last edited by Grebeny; 05-13-2022 at 06:45 PM.

  3. #63
    Player GaiusDrakon's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grebeny View Post
    No need to spy on me. I am telling you directly, I never cleared ultimate. Personally cleared most of the stuff I engaged with MIL, no echo, so your tool will claim I suck at dps, compared to the dps you did on the same content, how do you know I suck if you have no idea how you would perform with the same gear, you compare the gear, not the performence in that case. And I litterally see no objective reason to need addon (except auto calls or telegraphs that are pure cheating) that you need to clear any content. And I don't agree with the argument of "you don't know if you perform well" at all. Everyone that says they are good should be quite well aware of their skills, if you are aware of your skills you should know how much damage you have and there are pretty simple rules that work for every job, like don't overcap resources, don't keep CD skills unuesed and so on. In worse case if you can't see during battle(that would mean you are probably underperforming), you can record yourself and watch after the encounter. Last time I did MIL was with kind of random group at Eden 4, I would say progging to the enrage was total nightmare, but once we were there the boss was ending up between 35-40% and we used striking dummy and half hour to help people improve a bit (mostly muscle memory for their rotations, so they can do it easily when mechanics are happening) and we cleared after.
    Trying dealing with an actual difficult DPS check like first week Savage or on-patch Ultimates then come back to me.
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  4. #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by GaiusDrakon View Post
    Trying dealing with an actual difficult DPS check like first week Savage or on-patch Ultimates then come back to me.
    MIL means minimum item level (that is lower from the requirement on release of a patch to enter the battle). If you don't know that, probably you should came to me when you learn the game
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grebeny View Post
    MIL means minimum item level (that is lower from the requirement on release of a patch to enter the battle). If you don't know that, probably you should came to me when you learn the game
    Lmao you are way out of your depth here. Because of job potency changes, literally every fight under Lv 90 is much easier and their DPS checks are much easier to meet even when toggling MIL. Your MIL does not mean anything unless it's done ON PATCH.

    MIL A4S today is far, far easier than on-patch A4S, even with higher ilvl gear, because Lv 60 jobs are absolutely busted in Endwalker.

    If you think your MILs are that impressive you would've cleared P4S by now, no? After all we now have 20 ilvls of advantage. Should be very easy now.

    The mechanics aren't the hard part of Final Fantasy XIV. The hard part has always been meeting stringent DPS checks while executing mechanics flawlessly.
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    Last edited by GaiusDrakon; 05-13-2022 at 07:57 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grebeny View Post
    MIL means minimum item level (that is lower from the requirement on release of a patch to enter the battle). If you don't know that, probably you should came to me when you learn the game
    he's already said about the potency changes, but since your ilevel is so high you get even more of the two substats on your gear when synced down than you would if you were progging during the tier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mosha View Post
    he's already said about the potency changes, but since your ilevel is so high you get even more of the two substats on your gear when synced down than you would if you were progging during the tier.
    This is really incorrect, we made tests on the topic (yes, using third party tools). By our calculation if you enter with minimum item level gear +materia, you would actually have more DPS then entering with MIL sync. The point of being easier is valid with old content that was rebalanced because of the changes in the battle system, but not that valid with newer fights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grebeny View Post
    This is really incorrect, we made tests on the topic (yes, using third party tools). By our calculation if you enter with minimum item level gear +materia, you would actually have more DPS then entering with MIL sync. The point of being easier is valid with old content that was rebalanced because of the changes in the battle system, but not that valid with newer fights.
    Materia isn't counted when synced down lmao
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    Quote Originally Posted by GaiusDrakon View Post
    If you think your MILs are that impressive you would've cleared P4S by now, no? After all we now have 20 ilvls of advantage. Should be very easy now.

    The mechanics aren't the hard part of Final Fantasy XIV. The hard part has always been meeting stringent DPS checks while executing mechanics flawlessly.
    I will, when my static get bored with Lost ark and finally come to do it because we tryed to organize new one, but unfortunately we are oldies, we can't make schedule confirming every week we will be free in the exact same day for exact same hours and I see people don't want to be involved in floating schedule (understandable).
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    The direct hit stat also has a huge effect on pre-stb content where it was accuracy on release. Direct hit it free damage that on content there was no equivalent to.
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