3rd party tool go brrrrr

[Padudu]

The fact that these forums will dig through to find logs and drop them into xivanalysis whenever they disagree with someone really calls into question how much these tools really are for personal improvement.
Just amazing how fast people who say it's only for personal improvement and they only look up their own will reach for it when they get upset at someone. Honestly it's why they shouldn't ever have that functionality in game.

Oh gee, I wonder if that's because people who don't do high-end raiding content are being overly critical of those who do, so when you go check their logs and confirm that they haven't even touched an extreme, let alone a savage, you find out that these people are criticizing you with absolutely no experience with the problem.

But yes, there are times when people are toxic with xivanalysis, that's true. But the majority of people want to use them for self improvement reasons, console players included, people who haven't ever touched the OF and mind their business.

[KariTheFox]

Hey, does anyone else remember the beginning of this tier, when after a wipe the screen would pretty much immediately fade to black, therefore making it almost impossible tell what caused a wipe without looking at third party tools?

[Wilford111]

How is this difficult? T_T

Go ahead and use third-party addons if you aren't intruding on someone else's gameplay experience. SE will never know unless you tell someone or broadcast it to the world.

I'm guessing it's because streamers have the loudest voice that people are so riled up about this. It's legitimately not a big deal. Streamers should know the risks they're taking by publicly breaking tos.

[Skiros]

Why would I when I have you policing it for me. Thanks for the tips....that nobody asked for.

I SOOOO sorry that I can't play like the PC master race....in order for me to MEET your specifications to join your group I need to be better...I must be better...I should go buy a $3,000 PC....a $400 monitor...install a myriad of add ons so that I know when to be on the boss, and when to move 4 pixels to the left...so that I can get a 100% uptime....then have my parse uploaded so that I can show the world HOW F$(@#ING AMAZZZING I AM..... My god this literally is like talking to a end game WoW moron about only wanting people that can be galaxy brain players, and will kick ANYONE that makes the slightest mistake. Seriously the EXACT reason I hated playing WoW....end game was gated by these idiots that needed you to kiss the ring before you were "allowed" to get in a raid.

In fact...no...

I think I'll just continue to ignore everyone with their "tips" and continue to prog with the group of people that are having fun getting better at fights and learning them naturally.

With this kind of attitude you're never going to clear any Ultimate.

[Skiros]

The fact that these forums will dig through to find logs and drop them into xivanalysis whenever they disagree with someone really calls into question how much these tools really are for personal improvement.
Just amazing how fast people who say it's only for personal improvement and they only look up their own will reach for it when they get upset at someone. Honestly it's why they shouldn't ever have that functionality in game.

Because people are sick of players who argue that are playing well without X or saying stuff like "hardcore raids can be cleared by disabled people" when they are objectively playing at a very poor level.

It's a good thing even if it's toxic because we are able to expose liars and hypocrites commenting on high end raiding without the chops to back it up, or worse, when they have clearly never engaged in that kind of content before.

I personally literally never call out these people otherwise.

A while back there was also a guy going around saying other players are shit while claiming to have Ultimate kills. Called Veis_Alvare or something. If we didn't have these tools we might have believed them. But no, one single simple search exposed them to be nothing but a liar.

I know people think this is toxic but I don't care. I despise people talking about issues way out of their depth.

[Grebeny]

Because people are sick of players who argue that are playing well without X or saying stuff like "hardcore raids can be cleared by disabled people" when they are objectively playing at a very poor level.

No need to spy on me. I am telling you directly, I never cleared ultimate. Personally cleared most of the stuff I engaged with MIL, no echo, so your tool will claim I suck at dps, compared to the dps you did on the same content, how do you know I suck if you have no idea how you would perform with the same gear, you compare the gear, not the performence in that case. And I litterally see no objective reason to need addon (except auto calls or telegraphs that are pure cheating) that you need to clear any content. And I don't agree with the argument of "you don't know if you perform well" at all. Everyone that says they are good should be quite well aware of their skills, if you are aware of your skills you should know how much damage you have and there are pretty simple rules that work for every job, like don't overcap resources, don't keep CD skills unuesed and so on. In worse case if you can't see during battle(that would mean you are probably underperforming), you can record yourself and watch after the encounter. Last time I did MIL was with kind of random group at Eden 4, I would say progging to the enrage was total nightmare, but once we were there the boss was ending up between 35-40% and we used striking dummy and half hour to help people improve a bit (mostly muscle memory for their rotations, so they can do it easily when mechanics are happening) and we cleared after.

[GaiusDrakon]

No need to spy on me. I am telling you directly, I never cleared ultimate. Personally cleared most of the stuff I engaged with MIL, no echo, so your tool will claim I suck at dps, compared to the dps you did on the same content, how do you know I suck if you have no idea how you would perform with the same gear, you compare the gear, not the performence in that case. And I litterally see no objective reason to need addon (except auto calls or telegraphs that are pure cheating) that you need to clear any content. And I don't agree with the argument of "you don't know if you perform well" at all. Everyone that says they are good should be quite well aware of their skills, if you are aware of your skills you should know how much damage you have and there are pretty simple rules that work for every job, like don't overcap resources, don't keep CD skills unuesed and so on. In worse case if you can't see during battle(that would mean you are probably underperforming), you can record yourself and watch after the encounter. Last time I did MIL was with kind of random group at Eden 4, I would say progging to the enrage was total nightmare, but once we were there the boss was ending up between 35-40% and we used striking dummy and half hour to help people improve a bit (mostly muscle memory for their rotations, so they can do it easily when mechanics are happening) and we cleared after.

Trying dealing with an actual difficult DPS check like first week Savage or on-patch Ultimates then come back to me.

[Grebeny]

Trying dealing with an actual difficult DPS check like first week Savage or on-patch Ultimates then come back to me.

MIL means minimum item level (that is lower from the requirement on release of a patch to enter the battle). If you don't know that, probably you should came to me when you learn the game

[GaiusDrakon]

MIL means minimum item level (that is lower from the requirement on release of a patch to enter the battle). If you don't know that, probably you should came to me when you learn the game

Lmao you are way out of your depth here. Because of job potency changes, literally every fight under Lv 90 is much easier and their DPS checks are much easier to meet even when toggling MIL. Your MIL does not mean anything unless it's done ON PATCH.

MIL A4S today is far, far easier than on-patch A4S, even with higher ilvl gear, because Lv 60 jobs are absolutely busted in Endwalker.

If you think your MILs are that impressive you would've cleared P4S by now, no? After all we now have 20 ilvls of advantage. Should be very easy now.

The mechanics aren't the hard part of Final Fantasy XIV. The hard part has always been meeting stringent DPS checks while executing mechanics flawlessly.

[Mosha]

MIL means minimum item level (that is lower from the requirement on release of a patch to enter the battle). If you don't know that, probably you should came to me when you learn the game

he's already said about the potency changes, but since your ilevel is so high you get even more of the two substats on your gear when synced down than you would if you were progging during the tier.