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  1. #201
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    Quote Originally Posted by JanVanding View Post
    Well done community, you've fallen so very far, very fast.
    Best community? You're well on your way to Lost Ark tier at this rate.
    They've been there the entire time, just better and hiding behind a fake smile.
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  2. #202
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobynDaBank View Post
    Yeah honestly it's just funny that he was lauded when the meltdown was directed towards WoW. But now he's the villain because it's against this game. Yes, he was a bit too unhinged. But the double standards are astounding.
    Yeah but it's not all the same groups of people. Some people were there that don't care about what game he likes, simply because they just like his stream in general, or his meltdowns. It's not like the whole FFXIV community knows who he is.

    Then again the meltdown was different circumstances as well since a lot of the reason he was tilted during his WoW meltdown was the culture of sexual harassment. So if SE did something as big as Blizzard's culture of dehumanizing people like that - yeah different result...

    I think it's a bit of a bad take to be honest.

    Others view FFXIV's drama to be really mild or others have put it - actually lame. The company doesn't promote a culture of harassment (or at least it didn't blow up/kept under wraps) unlike Blizzard. SE actually updated their policies about stalking and such because they at least make some kind of effort. They decided to break from workaholic culture and actually lengthen time between patch cycles so their workers have better balance. While there were small outbreaks like the harassment surrounding a fanzine, and other community troubles...

    Our drama is - Bunny men/buff cat girls, locked hairstyles - gear/ housing and mods.

    There's of course cheating and botting - but that's the same with many games
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  3. #203
    Player YukikoKurosawa's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by JanVanding View Post
    Fun fact.

    This thread breaks the Witch hunting and harassment rules.

    Pyromancer didn't help himself, he did behave like a bit of a spoiled manbaby, but honestly, the fact this thread straight out breaks name and shame policy and is people dog piling a single person in the hopes of getting that person banned?

    Applause

    Well done community, you've fallen so very far, very fast.


    Best community? You're well on your way to Lost Ark tier at this rate.
    Tier 3 Pyro sub right here.
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  4. #204
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    Quote Originally Posted by JanVanding View Post
    Fun fact.

    This thread breaks the Witch hunting and harassment rules.

    Pyromancer didn't help himself, he did behave like a bit of a spoiled manbaby, but honestly, the fact this thread straight out breaks name and shame policy and is people dog piling a single person in the hopes of getting that person banned?

    Applause

    Well done community, you've fallen so very far, very fast.


    Best community? You're well on your way to Lost Ark tier at this rate.
    The community has been terrible ever seen the game appealed to Twitter Andies.
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  5. #205
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    SwingLifeAway's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by YukikoKurosawa View Post
    Tier 3 Pyro sub right here.
    Tier 3 MaximilianMus sub right here.
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  6. #206
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobynDaBank View Post
    Yeah honestly it's just funny that he was lauded when the meltdown was directed towards WoW. But now he's the villain because it's against this game. Yes, he was a bit too unhinged. But the double standards are astounding.
    It's not really about the game you know... It's about he treats his viewers and other players. I don't care if he has a pro-mod stance, many streamers have that but everyone agrees it's just ToS so there is nothing you can do. And we all know this game is far from perfect. What I do care about is that he belittles and insults people for little to no reason. Other streamers used add-ons and mods too, they don't get a backlash because they don't behave like a manchild.

    Edit: Just to clarify; I don't support reporting people and I'm not one of the people who do.
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    Last edited by VillainQueen; 05-13-2022 at 06:10 PM.

  7. #207
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    Quote Originally Posted by VillainQueen View Post
    It's not really about the game you know... It's about he treats his viewers and other players. I don't care if he has a pro-mod stance, many streamers have that but everyone agrees it's just ToS so there is nothing you can do. And we all know this game is far from perfect. What I do care about is that he belittles and insults people for little to no reason. Other streamers used add-ons and mods too, they don't get a backlash because they don't behave like a manchild.

    Edit: Just to clarify; I don't support reporting people and I'm not one of the people who do.
    I'd honestly argue it's both. His personality makes him an easier target since it not only makes people know they're going after a tantrum thrower but also one that could make them feel validated for doing so. That said, given how taboo and sacred the story is for many players, he was a pretty prime person for many to get attached to. Not surprising a lot of this same crowd might have it out for him when he belittles them lol.
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  8. #208
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    Quote Originally Posted by VillainQueen View Post
    It's not really about the game you know... It's about he treats his viewers and other players. I don't care if he has a pro-mod stance, many streamers have that but everyone agrees it's just ToS so there is nothing you can do. And we all know this game is far from perfect. What I do care about is that he belittles and insults people for little to no reason. Other streamers used add-ons and mods too, they don't get a backlash because they don't behave like a manchild.

    Edit: Just to clarify; I don't support reporting people and I'm not one of the people who do.
    Who cares if he is a jerk to its viewers if people don't like that they are free to leave the stream just like Pyro or any streamer have the absolute right to ban whoever they want whenever they want for any reason they want, the viewers can stop watching whenever they want.

    Remember Scottzone I sure remember how he was doxxed and got death threat for stating an opinion about the game. The community is absolutly terrible and I don't want to hear from people trying to justify witch hunting about their moral high ground.
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  9. #209
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scaramouche View Post
    The community is absolutly terrible and I don't want to hear from people trying to justify witch hunting about their moral high ground.
    Yet you blame a whole community for the actions of a few, doesn't make you better in my opinion.
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  10. #210
    Player Velvet_Lunarfang's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scaramouche View Post
    Who cares if he is a jerk to its viewers if people don't like that they are free to leave the stream just like Pyro or any streamer have the absolute right to ban whoever they want whenever they want for any reason they want, the viewers can stop watching whenever they want.

    Remember Scottzone I sure remember how he was doxxed and got death threat for stating an opinion about the game. The community is absolutly terrible and I don't want to hear from people trying to justify witch hunting about their moral high ground.
    Streamers forget who hold the power of their lively hood it's the viewers. Enough people leave and that cushy lifestyle is over. It's called being a professional and remain calm. If he throws a tantrum because he is wrong and people try to prove he is wrong and decides to ban them then he is childish. To me that attitude show he is just a PoS and deserved to be banned and I hope he never comes back
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