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  1. #221
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    Getting angry over video game drama does not mean = abuser. Goodness.

    We've already seen examples of people in this thread wanting to take down people like Preach too of all people over this chat bubble addon nonsense - this is nothing but a witch hunt led by people who now feel emboldened and empowered to go after people they don't like. They don't care about the rules, they just want chaos. They've already admitted as much.
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  2. #222
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason_Ashford View Post
    it kind of does? if this is how he acts on stream, the thing he does to keep the lights on, how does he act when he is off stream? because he has several tendencies that are massive red flags and it makes me worry about his gf/fiancée and his dog because i would not be surprised at all if he abuses them.
    not when it comes to this game it doesnt.
    you are well within your right to dislike him and to say so but it shouldn't have any bearing on whether a ban is warranted.

    if being a crappy person were a bannable offense half the forum wouldnt be able to play lmao
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  3. #223
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    First, what Pyro was wrong and inappropriate but as a person that has experiences and dealt with someone that have angry issues like him, I can understand why he did what he has done.

    Let me be clear about this, I LIKE ADD-ONS, BUT TOS TOLD US NOT TO USE THEM, SO I DON’T NOT USE THEM. My hope that one day that those elements of those programs like ACT and others can be incorporated into the game within the UI or created list that has what can be use and what can not be use. He was streaming with it, so he was reported. However, people continue to push the issue that made him flare up like he did, then it was taking out of context and now he is getting witch hunt (some of the 4ch/5ch folks found his Facebook account) by those folks.

    Next part of this is going to go alittle bit about my real life outside the game. I have two kids (age 5 and 12) that have autism spectrum disorder (ASD) and ADHD (That is what Pyro has). One of the reasons why I played this game because to get away from that craziness and I can tell you all of stuff that myself goes through everyday including bad mood swing, no hours of sleep, severe anger issues and other stuff. One of the traits about ADHD is that they do not deal with animosity and criticizing too well, for most of us we will brush it aside and move on but those who is on the spectrum and ADHD is a whole different ballgame (believe me, I got toys thrown at me, Temper tantrums for hours and getting bite hard on my body) now imagine yourself with those same type of conditions but you are a streamer that have over thousands of people watching you, many more that watched your VODs and getting income from that type of work. Yeah, I am not excusing his actions but when people don’t really pay attention to the channel labels, saying these things (even if it is true or not) then you combined it with problems he has (and before anybody says, “that should not be an excuse” and it is not but I see first-hand that my kids can go from happy to angry in mere seconds and there is no way to control it) will be recipe for disaster like what happened.

    In short, he had a mistake and SHOULD be judged by FFXIV team, not by us, some 4ch/5ch people or randoes on the internet. I think we all are taking this too seriously right now. We all should just chill out, relax and get ready for 6.2.
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    Last edited by NekiUno; 05-13-2022 at 11:55 PM.

  4. #224
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    OM3GA-Z3RO's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason_Ashford View Post
    it kind of does? if this is how he acts on stream, the thing he does to keep the lights on, how does he act when he is off stream? because he has several tendencies that are massive red flags and it makes me worry about his gf/fiancée and his dog because i would not be surprised at all if he abuses them.
    I feel sorry for his wife (Fiance?), his attitude seems to have textbook points of build up abusive tendencies, if he is as abusive towards his chat, there is gonna be a huge trouble in paradise scenario in the future.
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  5. #225
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    QT_Melon's Avatar
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    I kinda hate the "you should't" judge thing. Its kinda ... sanctimonious?

    Everyone judges about everything. I mean its SE to take action on things in the end. Judging is an opinion. Telling people not to judge is saying no one should have opinions.

    I can agree or disagree with the actions that could or could not be taken. That's it.

    Like. Do I think he should be banned? Well he broke the ToS in public view so yeah. Can I feel bad for him? I do in some regards. Everyone has had a bad day or something to deal with it's not that I can't have empathy.

    Do I think though what he did and some of the things he has done with his audience is wrong? Yeah and I think he deserves some of the feelings he is getting towards him and I understand why others cannot have empathy.

    But "who am I to judge"? In this case the decision regardless how I feel about it lies with those with the authority to take action.

    Pyro has the authority to take a break and quit streaming. I can't fault him for it. Sometimes you do what you gotta do.

    Twitch and SE has to do what they gotta do.

    We do what we gotta do we can and cannot chose to report him or not based on our judgements of what happened. "Snitching" sure. If the report button is there its there for ToS. Like it or not. Stop watching his streams? Sure. Don't want to? That's fine too.
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    Last edited by QT_Melon; 05-14-2022 at 06:03 AM.

  6. #226
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    Quote Originally Posted by YukikoKurosawa View Post
    Tier 3 Pyro sub right here.
    Not at all, I don't even sub to any of the streamers because parasocial relationships are weird.

    Seeing people literally turning into a toxic bunch of children throwing their toys out of the cot because they don't like that someone said something they don't agree with is my issue.
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  7. #227
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason_Ashford View Post
    it kind of does? if this is how he acts on stream, the thing he does to keep the lights on, how does he act when he is off stream? because he has several tendencies that are massive red flags and it makes me worry about his gf/fiancée and his dog because i would not be surprised at all if he abuses them.
    Man, twitch culture is fucking weird. You've seriously extrapolated some a clip of dude getting angry with people on twitch antagonizing him to "yeah he probably abuses his dog and fiancee".
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  8. #228
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    Quote Originally Posted by KariTheFox View Post
    Man, twitch culture is fucking weird. You've seriously extrapolated some a clip of dude getting angry with people on twitch antagonizing him to "yeah he probably abuses his dog and fiancee".
    did it ever occur to you that i have been abused? that i recognize red flags and key words that speak of abusive tendencies because i have had to deal with them myself? His latest tirade is just one of *many* that he has had over the years in his career as a streamer and he ALWAYS cycles through the same motions. He loses his crap and goes on full nuclear tirades at his stream viewers, banning anyone who says anything that disagrees with his opinion, then he deletes the VoD, copyright claims anyone who posts clips of his meltdown, then "apologizes" by blaming his ADHD and blaming his watchers for making him mad. "Look at what you made me do" is a phrase i've heard several times in my life, usually right after being beaten, and it is a phrase he has used on more than one occasion.

    the cycle of Anger, Abuse, and Victim blaming is abusive behavior 101, anyone who has studied cases of domestic abuse can easily point out that what he is doing is abusive.
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    Last edited by Jason_Ashford; 05-14-2022 at 12:44 AM.

  9. #229
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scaramouche View Post
    I couldn't give a shit about the opinion of someone who watched out of context clip made by hater on reddit who only show someone getting mad without showing the lead up and now are so opinionated about a subject they know shit about.
    Okay fanboy, I don't really care tbh.
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  10. #230
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason_Ashford View Post
    it kind of does? if this is how he acts on stream, the thing he does to keep the lights on, how does he act when he is off stream? because he has several tendencies that are massive red flags and it makes me worry about his gf/fiancée and his dog because i would not be surprised at all if he abuses them.
    We don't know how he acts off stream and there's no need to speculate. Until there's a proof that he's abusing anyone irl, you shouldn't throw shade on anyone.
    If you don't like him - don't watch him.
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