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    Quote Originally Posted by Havenchild View Post
    I'm pretty sure at this point, you are trying to pretend to be willfully ignorant, or just plain old oblivious. Your supposed question has been answered countless times in this thread.

    Players have been warned several times.
    They are in the right to go as heavy handed as they want to.
    So I should be held accountable for the entire playerbase on my first warning and be held to a 10 day suspension ?
    And what of a new player who may be unaware of these rules/histories ?
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    Alexalea Snowsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by VirusOnline View Post
    So I should be held accountable for the entire playerbase on my first warning and be held to a 10 day suspension ?
    And what of a new player who may be unaware of these rules/histories ?
    I believe you have to agree to the terms of service to play the game so if they weren't aware of the rules, that's on them. Doesn't matter how new they are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VirusOnline View Post
    So I should be held accountable for the entire playerbase on my first warning and be held to a 10 day suspension ?
    And what of a new player who may be unaware of these rules/histories ?
    Ignorance does not protect one from punishment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StriderShinryu View Post
    I believe you have to agree to the terms of service to play the game so if they weren't aware of the rules, that's on them. Doesn't matter how new they are.
    And who reads the lengthy ToS ?
    Surely, we agree, but it's hard to follow a ToS that even SE interprets on a case by case basis rather than a hard black and white and now we've arrived at this point because of that.


    Quote Originally Posted by ACE135 View Post
    Ignorance does not protect one from punishment.
    Ignorance on the players part ?
    No, this was willfull ignorance and interpretation on SE's part.
    They let it get this far while placing blame on the playerbase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VirusOnline View Post
    Ignorance on the players part ?
    No, this was willfull ignorance and interpretation on SE's part.
    They let it get this far while placing blame on the playerbase.
    What do you mean? None player was banned for using ACT even if it is known they should not use it. If they banned people for just using ACT, they would ban the entire first world group, but they banned only the red mage, who surpisingly had the same mod as Bengel who got banned. I didn't found a video of the player from Japan, but judging by some comments on his topic, he was using the same mod. To me it looks like they very specifically banned people that were using addon showing them specific information that is unavailable for other players. Because as I said, the other members of their groups were using the other mods, but not this one (or at least they were not taking visible advantage of it).
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    Avalen Koma
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    Quote Originally Posted by VirusOnline View Post
    So I should be held accountable for the entire playerbase on my first warning and be held to a 10 day suspension ?
    And what of a new player who may be unaware of these rules/histories ?
    VVVVVVVVVVVVVV

    Quote Originally Posted by StriderShinryu View Post
    you have to agree to the terms of service to play the game so if they weren't aware of the rules, that's on them. Doesn't matter how new they are.
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