Why not a warning?

[Deedlit]

Because 5ch always gets their blood.

[TaleraRistain]

Because a warning isn't going to act as a deterrent so SE has to go stronger with a 10 day ban. They've been warning people for years. But streamers and content creators especially in the past year or two have been egregiously thumbing their nose openly at SE's rules. SE's policy of not being heavy handed has been a good compromise but with people constantly questioning why streamers got allowed with openly using these tools, they forced SE into a heavier handed position. People are still going to use these tools and SE knows it. But hopefully they will go back to being more discreet so SE and the player base can go back to the ceasefire they had about the issue.

[Skiros]

There are so many people in this thread that seem deficient in several areas of cognition.

The argument OP is making is one about MAGNITUDE and SEVERITY. Not an argument about whether they should be sanctioned in the first place.

Only a few have make an argument about why higher severity is appropriate. The rest... I am legitimately disdainful at the alarming lack of intelligence in this community.

[Rolder50]

The rest... I am legitimately disdainful at the alarming lack of intelligence in this community.

Pretty par for the course, really.

[Jybril]

Wow someone who didn't manage to read the entire post.

Guy. ADD-ONS ARE NOT ALLOWED AND ARE AGAINST TOS.
Therefore, if you are seen with them, you are at risk of being banned.
Like what's with the mental gymnastics we have been warned several times LOL.

[Stasya]

Guy. ADD-ONS ARE NOT ALLOWED AND ARE AGAINST TOS.
Therefore, if you are seen with them, you are at risk of being banned.
Like what's with the mental gymnastics we have been warned several times LOL.

They can't say that some addons are safe to use because it will imply as they promote them and also it saves them from having to deal with dumb people who download cheat that steals their passoword.

But w/e hard to explain this to SE blind white knights. Yoshi P himself uses act like program like other devs, it's not hard to grasp this.

Again people get banned because they are getting mass reported by 5ch lunatics that lie in their reports, if GMs really wanted to take action on streamers ultimate world race would have ended first day.

[Havenchild]

They can't say that some addons are safe to use because it will imply as they promote them and also it saves them from having to deal with dumb people who download cheat that steals their passoword.

But w/e hard to explain this to SE blind white knights. Yoshi P himself uses act like program like other devs, it's not hard to grasp this.

Again people get banned because they are getting mass reported by 5ch lunatics that lie in their reports, if GMs really wanted to take action on streamers ultimate world race would have ended first day.

The reason for the ban was NOT mass reporting. They got banned for the UI/ HUD modification.

All the mass reporting did was put a magnifying glass on the actual issue. It may have flown under the radar otherwise, but that doesn't mean there was not a ToS offense being done. Yoshi-P has been very open and upfront about this.

[Stasya]

The reason for the ban was NOT mass reporting. They got banned for the UI/ HUD modification.

All the mass reporting did was put a magnifying glass on the actual issue. It may have flown under the radar otherwise, but that doesn't mean there was not a ToS offense being done. Yoshi-P has been very open and upfront about this.

Then it's "We will ban you but in a year we will add feature you used into a game, have fun" type of situation. You seem didnt even read what i wrote about Yoshi P and also about GMs, you basically defend people who abuse report system and lie in reports.

Casuals that are not even getting harrased by anyone abuse mass reports and pretend victims of .... UI mod?

[Havenchild]

Then it's "We will ban you but in a year we will add feature you used into a game, have fun" type of situation. You seem didnt even read what i wrote about Yoshi P and also about GMs, you basically defend people who abuse report system and lie in reports.

Casuals that are not even getting harrased by anyone abuse mass reports and pretend victims of .... UI mod?

But if it's against the rules, it's still against the rules. Mass reporting anyone is not inherently wrong if it is justified. You can't just mass report anyone for anything and get them banned.

If I shout in town and say "The sky is green ya'll" and everyone mass reported me for saying that, do you think I would get sent to in-game jail for that? No I would not, and the odds are the people reporting in THAT situation would get in trouble for frivolous report abuse.

In this case, a user is caught in 4k using UI/Mod enhancements (according to the GM) during a highly stream event. If there is no legitimate case, GMs will do nothing. But if someone is reported, EVEN 1 REPORT is looked into and is found factual, then yes SE will act.

That's not hard to understand.

I don't blame them at all when SE turns around and decides to add the very thing they banned the person for. If it's a banable offence then why are you adding it to the game?

Do you know what they are planning to add into the game? Because I have not seen any official comment on what particular modification they have reviewed and WOULD be adding.

It does not matter. If it's against the ToS today, you can get banned for it.

People have weird interpretations of what the ToS is and takes like this are straight bogus.

[Aelin_Ashryver]

I just like the irony I see on twitter of ppl saying don't cheat don't use mods but have modded their characters in game in their profile pic and timeline.
Some of the plugins people use, like arthars discussed on his stream, can allow things otherwise impossible like triple weaving etc and yeah that is 100% cheating. But modding your ui and other innocent things like.. it just gives the player using them some more clarity. If you mod your cat boi don't try and clap at people modding their ui rofl.