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  1. #271
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    This honestly makes really wonder if/how they'll touch on the reflections other then the 13th going into the future, because while they can't reasonably devote an entire expansion to each, having them all of them relegated to a single expansion where we perhaps need to somehow "reinforce" the boundaries keeping them from rejoining with the Source in order to prevent disastrous consequences for all would feel similarly awkward after how the First was handled.
    I think the First only worked because it was on the precipice, 9/10 of it had been consumed by the flood so only Norvrandt was left. There's no reason that we know of why the remaining shards (excepting the 13th) wouldn't be full planets and players would rightfully wonder why we could only visit one continent. It's possible one (or more) of them could've obliterated itself similar to any of the worlds in Ultima Thule, but that's not dissimilar from what happened on the First so it'd still feel like a repeat of sorts. Were one embroiled in a world war it could not be safe for us to leave our destination, but they're wanting to move away from war stories (probably for the best).

    Personally, I'd rather everything became whole again but I've never liked the sundering, which was compounded given the context of EW. The possibility that everything will eventually right itself brings me a measure of peace. At the very least, my 'crazy personal headcanon' is my WoL merges with all their other shards before returning to the aetherial sea so they can be fully cleansed as Azem and rejoin all their old friends.

    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Hydaelyn Sundered the world and Zodiark altered the aethercurrents...since Zodiark being gone currently has the Aethercurrents repairing themselves back into their original state (as shown by the FSH Studium questline), then Hydaelyn being gone means there's nothing keeping the shards separated anymore, they're going to combine. Probably not today or tomorrow, but over time they will...and with possibly the biggest Calamity the world will have ever seen.
    Only if they all happened at once and assuming there are no mitigation efforts that can be made. I don't know what a rejoining without having to polarize a shard looks like either, maybe it's not as violent as what the Ascians were having to do.
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    When Elidibus got trapped in the Crystal Tower on the First, he was affected by the residual after-effects of the Crystal Tower having crossed space and time.

    This helped him gain some understanding of how to manipulate the workings of the Crystal Tower to send us into Elpis, using his own aether as fuel for the time and space manipulation required. Therefore, Elidibus's aether was scattered across the timestream and across dimensions just as the Crystal Tower was, and this is why we get the Warrior Of Light armour set while running Labyrinth Of The Ancients.
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  3. #273
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    I've been chewing over a bit of a theory lately to explain the connection between Azem, Azeyma and Azim, and my headcanon is that after the Sundering, the newly Sundered Azem held onto the scraps of memory that remained and continued to be the 'protector of man', acting as something of a knight errant around the world looking out for their fellow Sundered (and the new life born after), a warden of the people so to speak. Eventually though, their now finite lifespan caught up to them and forced them to pass on their mask, and their weapon, onto the next generation, training an 'apprentice' of sorts, with the apprentice becoming the new Azem on the previous one's deathbed.

    Over time and several generations, each successive Azem continued to protect the people, but the story of their origin started to muddle and wane as such stories do with each retelling. The turning point was when a male au ra (or an early ancestor of the au ra), became the new Azem, and decided to further travel to what is now known as Othard, and ended up inadvertently founding xaela culture, only to perish there in unknown circumstances, thus also losing Azem's mask and weapon.

    Hence, the 'order' Azem founded disappeared, and the tattered remnants of their memory gradually shifted into what became Azeyma the Warden, goddess of the sun (due to a tattered recollection of Azem's sun symbol of their seat on the Convocation), and that successive generations could no longer even remember what gender Azem had been originally, thus deifying Azem as a goddess of the sun, regardless of whether Azem was a woman originally or not. And in the East the ancestors of the xaela recalled Azem as 'Azim the Dawn Father', the one who created their culture, remembering them as a male au ra without knowing where the name originated from, and naming the lands they dwelled in accordingly. And this has continued into the present day.

    A coda to this is due to both Ascian meddling and also Hydaelyn starting to guide things as the First Calamity approached, Azem's role as protector was replaced by the first Warrior of Light (who, of course, was Azem's first reincarnation). That point I'm still working futher details out though (like, how Azem's soul fragments on the Shards carried on), but I'll work them out eventually!

    And of course, this whole theory is so full of holes and almost definetely isn't what SE has probably thought of (and the upcoming Myths of the Realm raid is all but certainly going to completely destroy this headcanon), but I like this idea anyway (especially in the abscence of anything else to explain the connection, until the aforementioned raid is added). Thus, feel free to sink it with criticism!
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    Last edited by Enkidoh; 03-28-2022 at 11:05 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    Aaaaannnd now I just had a mental image of Lahabrea walking into a store called Bodies R Us and trying on different humans.... >.<

    Lahabrea: hn too tall... tooo short.... Juuuuuust right.
    Venat was right.

  4. #274
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    Quote Originally Posted by YianKutku View Post
    When Elidibus got trapped in the Crystal Tower on the First, he was affected by the residual after-effects of the Crystal Tower having crossed space and time.

    This helped him gain some understanding of how to manipulate the workings of the Crystal Tower to send us into Elpis, using his own aether as fuel for the time and space manipulation required. Therefore, Elidibus's aether was scattered across the timestream and across dimensions just as the Crystal Tower was, and this is why we get the Warrior Of Light armour set while running Labyrinth Of The Ancients.
    I always thought that it would be either Elidibus or Emet who made the Warrior of Light set in there for being sentimental. Not due to this. Since one of my headcannons is Emet throughout time has been trying to not only find the barrer of Azem's soul, but also try and indirectly try and stir up their memories if they saw hints about their past self. For even though they had our memory crystal he didn't seem to want to force those memories onto us? Meanwhile Elidibus might have forgotten Azem's name and what they looked like but remembered the armor they must have worn at some point. Along with he holding its wearer in high regard at some point.
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  5. #275
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    Azem was actually better at teleportation magic than combat magic. The WoL's ability to teleport themselves endlessly is the remnant of Azem's specialty/talent for teleportation magic.
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    Last edited by Naria; 05-08-2022 at 03:47 AM.

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    I don't remember anything about Azem and teleportation magic. Where was this?
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    until further updates say otherwise i think we can safely say azeyma isnt linked to azem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erendis View Post
    I don't remember anything about Azem and teleportation magic. Where was this?
    I guess it could be inferred, what with all the traveling they did. I don't think it's expressly spelled out anywhere, but this is the crazy personal headcanons thread.
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    Right, just realised what thread this was...
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    The biggest reach of a headcanon I have is that Fantasias do exist, but they're both rare and extremely easy to fake, which leads to most people not thinking they're real. After all, the item description says it looks and tastes like water; how the hell are you gonna be able to prove it's legit outside of trying it yourself?
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