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    Tanker4444's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Lyse would be the first to admit she doesn't know what she's doing, and she appreciates Raubahn's support.

    It's stupid that the plot put her in there as leader with no real credentials in the first place, but seeing as she is there, she's not oblivious to the fact that she lacks them and she's trying her best to get it right.
    I don't think she is actually leading anything other than the branch of the Resistance we met. It just so happens that she is one of only two Ala Mhigan characters we know so SE tends to put her there. Its clear they wanted her to take the leadership role at some point in development, maybe they were thinking a Scion "ruler" would make for a good story point? But the character just isn't set up for that. At all. So they brought in Raubhan and keep her showing up all the time because she's been around forever as a Scion. Personally, I think she needed a second Xpac worth of character development. She was that shortchanged in Stormblood and missed the amazing character growth the Scions got in Shadowbringers. She could have really used some.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Lyse would be the first to admit she doesn't know what she's doing, and she appreciates Raubahn's support.

    It's stupid that the plot put her in there as leader with no real credentials in the first place, but seeing as she is there, she's not oblivious to the fact that she lacks them and she's trying her best to get it right.
    My guess/headcannon is that Lyse ISN'T the leader of Ala Mhigo. After all, we saw when she gathered the leaders of the tribes/towns in Gyr Abania, she seemed to be forming more of a Representative Republic, or at the very least a Senate. Her role seems more like a Diplomat/Representative of Ala Mhigo to the Eorzean Alliance, which is fair that it gets equated with a Leadership position because in many real life cases the Representatives to world organizations (say, the G7) are ALSO the Leaders of their countries (Diplomats, not really, but I digress).
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    Zadnor spoilers

    The Sect of Germonique, the cult that worships Ultima elaborated on in Gilbrisbert's field notes, are the ones who summoned all the Lucavi in the RtI raids( except for Yiazamat and Argath obviously)
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    I don't think the shards being the first 13 final fantasy games fits. They're all, well, reflections of the source. Not fully distinct worlds. THere's a reason Norvrandt strongly resembles Eorzea, albeit truncated down to just five zones plus the tempest.

    Plus that's rather bleak to think that 7 of the prior games just get rejoined to the Source and those worlds cease to exist anymore.

    They may all exist in a multiverse sort of sense through the Interdimensional Rift, but but I don't think the shards being the actual worlds of other FF games actually fits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bright-Flower View Post
    I don't think the shards being the first 13 final fantasy games fits. They're all, well, reflections of the source. Not fully distinct worlds. THere's a reason Norvrandt strongly resembles Eorzea, albeit truncated down to just five zones plus the tempest.

    Plus that's rather bleak to think that 7 of the prior games just get rejoined to the Source and those worlds cease to exist anymore.

    They may all exist in a multiverse sort of sense through the Interdimensional Rift, but but I don't think the shards being the actual worlds of other FF games actually fits.
    It doesn't, the development team themselves long debunked that personally anyway during a Letter From the Producer Live years ago:

    Quote Originally Posted by Gildrien
    1:57:29
    Q: A lot of names from Ivalice have been mentioned such as Dalmasca, Belias, and Zodiak. Is there some kind of connection between Hydaelyn and Ivalice?
    A: Maehiro: To be absolutely clear, there is no direct connection between FFXIV’s Hydaelyn and FFXII’s Ivalice or even FFXI’s Vana’diel. They are not the same world in different dimensions or time—they are their own separate worlds. However, there are certain connections to people or objects that appear in these other worlds that figure into the story of FFXIV as it has been conceived and is being told.

    Yoshida: We’ll be revealing more as we move forward.
    But, I stopped short of criticizing that idea here because this whole thread is specifically about 'crazy' or 'impossible' ideas, so I would look rather foolish or hypocritical for doing so. (Plus I posted an idea earlier that was a variation of the 'Shards=other FF worlds' idea myself (FFVII's Planet is the Source Hydaelyn hundreds of thousands of years from now), so criticizing that would have me look even more silly!

    So yeah, no matter how unbelievable or crazy the idea, anything goes here!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    Aaaaannnd now I just had a mental image of Lahabrea walking into a store called Bodies R Us and trying on different humans.... >.<

    Lahabrea: hn too tall... tooo short.... Juuuuuust right.
    Venat was right.

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    Don't know if it was already said, but another headcanon I have is that the gunscythe Zenos now wields was actually Emet-Selch's preffered weapon when he was Solus van Galvus the legatus, which is why the scythe has the Garlean insignia on it. Remember Zenos loves 'storied' weapons, and what would be more storied and appropriate than the weapon that helped bring about the calamity-machine that is the Garlean Empire? Also since it's a 'gun-scythe' in the sense that it appears to have an actual gun-component, it was probably actually made in Garlemald.

    EDIT: apparently the scythe doesn't have a barrel, which would make it more in line as a fusion of scythe and gunbreaker gunblades, but I still stick to the theory it was Emet-Selch-as-Solus'.
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    Last edited by MrThinker; 06-03-2021 at 04:59 PM.

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    Final Fantasy IV: The After Years had a similar deal. After entering the final dungeon inside the True Moon, you start encountering recycled bosses from the original game—Dr. Lugae, the Four Lords, Edge's parents, and so on. This is done with the implication that these beings' souls were reconstructed from the memories of the crystals taken from the Blue Planet, which the game's villain plans to destroy via dropping the True Moon into it.

    But about halfway through the dungeon, you stop encountering bosses from Final Fantasy IV. Instead, you end up fighting the Four Fiends from FF1, four particular lategame bosses from FF2, the non-Cloud of Darkness bosses from FF3's World of Darkness, and several optional or plot-relevant bosses from FF5 and FF6. This carries the same implication as above, but with their respective worlds instead of the Blue Planet. And with that comes the implication that FF4:TAY's villain destroyed the worlds of FF1, 2, 3, 5, and 6 to get their crystals... even though FF2 and FF6 did not have any (magicite is not quite the same thing), and FF5's crystals were destroyed by Exdeath over the course of its plot.

    In other words, even though the boss fights are a clear reference to those games, it's best not to take their appearance too seriously. The thirteen Reflections, and the Source being called the Fourteenth, is a clear reference to the fact that there were fourteen numbered Final Fantasy games at the time of its release. But that doesn't mean the Reflections are actually the worlds of the games they share a number with. 'cause otherwise, I'll have to take FF4:TAY's crossover nonsense seriously, and that'd mean the First gets annihilated by a sapient pile of Mochi piloting a moon-sized space station.
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    So backstory for mine: the DRK story mentions once or twice that the job's power derives from a sort of "mini-Void" inside the user, and that delving too deeply into that power can have consequences, but to my recollection the nature of those consequences is never expanded on. Separately, the male Au Ra starting gear bears a significant resemblance to the striking/scouting gear from the Void-themed World of Darkness raid. Based on these two completely separate, likely irrelevant, and possibly incorrect pieces of info, my personal crazy headcanon theory is that the Au Ra were once a different race that, long before the job's canon founder, originated/practiced the arts of the Dark Knight to such an excess that they began to develop Voidsent-like features (horns, scales, tail). The Raen precursors ended up with white scales and such because they stopped practicing the arts; the proto-Xaela's features turned black because they continued to practice them longer. Both groups were eventually ostracized and ended up migrating to different places in the Far East. For bonus insane-o points, insert Azim and Nama as the leaders of their respective proto-factions who just ended up being deified by their groups' eventual descendants.
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    Were we born to fight and die? Sacrificed for one huge lie?
    Are we heroes keeping peace?
    Or are we weapons?
    Pointed at the enemy so someone else can claim a victory?

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    My personal head canon is that the Lalafel of Ul’dah are the brewers of most of the worlds high class spirits (whiskey, Bourbon, Cognac, etc). Most of their distilleries are in Ul’dah proper, and Lolorito is part owner of several of the highest ranked.

    Roegadyn make Rum, and some beers in Limsa.
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    Azem tried to rally the Convocation multiple times while the End of Days were still isolated incidents, but the other thirteen always rebuffed them, claiming to need more evidence that the events were worthy of intervention.

    Because of this, Azem had some very complicated feelings towards both Venat's group and their former comrades in the Convocation just prior to the Sundering. A lot of concern and love, mixed with a less-than-healthy dose of rage, disappointment, outrage, and feelings of betrayal.

    Azem just watched the battle between Hydaelyn and Zodiark, only intervening to help innocents caught in the crossfire.
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