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  1. #21
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    Lil Imp
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Hi, I'm an ultimate raider with short-term memory issues. I'm decent at memorizing fight timelines, but very bad with remembering what just happened in a pull. Sometimes it's so bad that I'll forget mechanics I verbally called out to my party only 5 seconds earlier.

    When it comes to mechanics that require me to memorize stuff like that, I've had to come up with a few coping strategies:
    1. Running with other people in comms who can remind me of what just happened if I ask.
    2. Physically writing notes on a notepad. (I did this one a lot for bloodrakes in p4s, as well as Finale)
    3. Using macros assigned to hotkeys to leave a record of what happened in the chatbox.
    4. Repeating it aloud to myself while waiting for the mechanic to resolve.

    5. Finding alternative tricks to solve mechanics without memorizing. Someone mentioned this earlier in the thread with 5head from EndsingerEX.
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  2. #22
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    M'leineya Leoh
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    Phoenix
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by namtap032892 View Post
    I myself have severe ADHD and my short term memory is pretty garbage, so I understand how you feel a bit, but fortunately, that's not an issue once you've figured out the tricks to the mechanics.
    For the one with the five heads, and the one in the center is rotating, you don't need to memorize anything. The rings will indicate how far back it rewinds (1 rewinds to the very last mechanic, 3 to the very first), and the middle head always be rotating counterclockwise for this. The heads on the side are even easier: Odd number of rings will be the same AoE it just used (so donut or full circle), and 2 will be the other AoE. At the very end of the mechanic, only one quadrant will be safe, so just figure out which way the head will be facing, and determine which of the two heads left are safe. The last head you were at and the one diagonal from it will be safe if there's an odd number of rings, and the other two will be safe if there's 2.

    And I believe others have mentioned this, but for the one with the AoEs, the only thing you need to memorize is which of the mechanics you were in the middle for. And same thing here: Rings indicate how far back it rewinds. So, if you were middle the first time you'll only be in if you have 3 rings. 2nd is 2 rings, and 3rd is 1 ring. Otherwise, you will be at your designated clock position.

    Sorry if this is too wordy, but I hope it helps explain these two mechanics.
    It's not just Endsinger. I've been looking at mechanics for P3S over and over and over and even with MTSQ's breathless mechanics it's over 16 mins of her talking, for MTSQ that's a hell of a lot of mechanics being explained. I'm getting regular headaches trying to memorize it and I just can't, it's far too much! I have yet to get past the first Fledgling Flight and from what I can see it's a major cluster of one thing after the next with different stuff happening each and every time it appears, player specific mechanics, and no room for error. No halfway point either which means if the party wipes it's right back to the start again.
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    Last edited by geekgirl101; 05-10-2022 at 04:03 AM.
    Gaius van Baelsar: Nor is this unknown to your masters. Which prompts the question: what came first, the chicken or the egg?

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  4. #23
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    Tasogar Ashford
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    Quote Originally Posted by geekgirl101 View Post
    It's not just Endsinger. I've been looking at mechanics for P3S over and over and over and even with MTSQ's breathless mechanics it's over 16 mins of her talking, for MTSQ that's a hell of a lot of mechanics being explained. I'm getting regular headaches trying to memorize it and I just can't, it's far too much! I have yet to get past the first Fledgling Flight and from what I can see it's a major cluster of one thing after the next with different stuff happening each and every time it appears, player specific mechanics, and no room for error. No halfway point either which means if the party wipes it's right back to the start again.
    I used to be like you. I would get headaches from watching those guides. I suggest that you watch other raid guides such as those made by JoonBob since he condenses information down considerably and provides both visual graphics and gameplay. The issue could also stem from playing a busy class, or from not having mastered your class. If you are not completely comfortable on your class, you can end up staring at your hotbar and losing focus. Practice your class as much as you can in order to pay attention to mechanics more efficiently.

    Once you master your class you can apply the following:

    Repeat the name of the current mechanic in your mind during prog so that you stay focused on what's currently happening. Alternatively, you can think about what this mechanic requires of you. For example: During Flame of Asphodelos in P3S, think about your positioning. Which way should you dodge? Where should you stand for spread/stack? Where should you stand for baits? There sorts of questions will keep you engaged in what's happening and will keep your mind from trailing off.

    If you can help if, keep short notes that describe what you should be doing during a particular phase.
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  5. #24
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    M'leineya Leoh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tasogar View Post
    I used to be like you. I would get headaches from watching those guides. I suggest that you watch other raid guides such as those made by JoonBob since he condenses information down considerably and provides both visual graphics and gameplay. The issue could also stem from playing a busy class, or from not having mastered your class. If you are not completely comfortable on your class, you can end up staring at your hotbar and losing focus. Practice your class as much as you can in order to pay attention to mechanics more efficiently.

    Once you master your class you can apply the following:

    Repeat the name of the current mechanic in your mind during prog so that you stay focused on what's currently happening. Alternatively, you can think about what this mechanic requires of you. For example: During Flame of Asphodelos in P3S, think about your positioning. Which way should you dodge? Where should you stand for spread/stack? Where should you stand for baits? There sorts of questions will keep you engaged in what's happening and will keep your mind from trailing off.

    If you can help if, keep short notes that describe what you should be doing during a particular phase.
    Oh I know my class alright, I've played it for 5 years straight. It's just too much information overload from a fight that has over 20 different mechanics to memorize and I'm being burned out and feeling helpless with each failure to adjust. My brain feels completely frazzled.
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    Gaius van Baelsar: Nor is this unknown to your masters. Which prompts the question: what came first, the chicken or the egg?

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