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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverSp View Post
    dont take anything from this kid seriously just a reminder in another post he said "different people pay different sub payments so the housing privilege's is somehow tied to how much or what length duration sub you pay with currency exchange rates" Basically he makes up stuff and pretends it matters.
    I hate to make you face this trauma again, I really do...

    Quote Originally Posted by SilverSp View Post
    every single person pays the same amount for the sub .
    Quote Originally Posted by Big_Bap View Post
    https://support.na.square-enix.com/f...5382&kid=64539

    Not even getting into conversion or additional services.
    Not quite what I said, but its okay. Now repeat after me.. Legacy players pay 10$ while non-legacy players pay 15$.

    Btw, why do you lie about the amount of FC members you have? Why do you lie about the gil you have?

    If anybody wants a treat, go read some of his threads:

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...e-in-the-world
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...t-subscription


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    Quote Originally Posted by iiTzSeb View Post
    Yeah I've seen him spew psuedo-intellectual tripe on other threads, that's why I'm not bothering dignifying him with a response. Just not worth the expended effort to interact with pretentious, self-serving wannabe housing moguls.
    Damn why do you people concede so easily? Real-life must be hard for you if you can't accept having your ideas challenged. Godspeed my d00d.
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    Last edited by Big_Bap; 04-30-2022 at 03:42 PM.

  2. #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    Placard PvP. 48 go in, last person standing gets the plot?
    Now that's a battle royale I can get behind :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big_Bap View Post
    I hate to make you face this trauma again, I really do...




    Not quite what I said, but its okay. Now repeat after me.. Legacy players pay 10$ while non-legacy players pay 15$.

    Btw, why do you lie about the amount of FC members you have? Why do you lie about the gil you have?

    If anybody wants a treat, go read some of his threads:

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...e-in-the-world
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...t-subscription


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    Damn why do you people concede so easily? Real-life must be hard for you if you can't accept having your ideas challenged. Godspeed my d00d.
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    He posted a chart showing different payment amounts for different subs to a response which outlined no matter what everyone pays to get access to the game implying that because different people pay different amount for subscription apparently it has something to do with who gets access to sub and who doesnt. Basically lying constantly.
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    Before you type something make sure you have proof of what you're saying

  4. #24
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    It solves the issue with people standing on the placecard for days clicking and it solves parts of a bot problem where people use programs that is against the ToS as well.
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  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by iiTzSeb View Post
    The silicon shortage excuse only works for so long if you're a corporate entity with a name so large that suppliers would be JUMPING to do business with you. Plus they've had almost a decade to design/implement a better housing system with actual dedicated hardware to support it and STILL haven't. At this point it isn't even a complaint about "why isn't it being done NOW" it's a complaint of "why WASN'T this done SOONER." We'll PROBABLY still be here 5 years from now when they've only added 3 extra wards and doubled the lottery time thinking "GOD WHY IS IT STILL NOT FIXED EUGHGHGHG" because nobody wants to admit that this problem could have and SHOULD HAVE been solved YEARS ago.
    It will easen up when auto demo is put back on as well... you would regular see plots opening up, now you just don't have to click the placecard for two days and then only maybe, be getting then and then accusing SE for getting a wasted wrist or the likes... go click place bet.... the roulette rolls on the day of the end of the lottery, if you win, you win.. if not try again next plot... everyone entered want some kind of property be it a FC or Private house.
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  6. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyhawk View Post
    There, I fixed that for you. WE have never pretended, just want that to be clear.
    there's a very unfortunate number of people who are deluded into thinking instanced housing isnt possible; most of whom probably don't actually care and have no horse in the race since they already likely own a home of their desired size; and you are tarnishing their forum with your malcontent by not being a fanboy or caring about the things they care about

    if anyone thinks they would allow FC's to theoretically host capped out apartment counts, but that they couldnt afford to have instanced housing with their budget, again, you're lying to yourself/everyone else and being a contrarian for nothing. you have to understand that. not to mention that all users are not concurrently logged in; obviously. but it is the same.

    in general its a wheel that'll get broken, but these guys will cry that their opinion is valid and should be accepted (or that their technical truths hold weight ^^^ theres one for you) as if for some reason the game has to necessitate grief. a game you pay for. i can't imagine being such a miserable sack that you'd think a game has to suck "because" when it makes this much money
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    Last edited by Corvus_V; 05-01-2022 at 06:27 AM.
    yeah, i'll give him the wrap. but foist, i gotta wrap this FISH.

  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus_V View Post
    but that they couldnt afford to have instanced housing with their budget....
    To agree with your point; we're getting Island Sanctuaries so they absolutely have the ability (and company-wide budget) to do instanced housing. It's simply come down to a matter of them being willing to invest in the additional time and resources to make IS real housing and not some low-resource outdoor-only-with-pretty-skinned-buildings-we-can't-enter deal.

    On the flip side, I don't want them to change the current housing system; I love it how it is. I do want them to ADD to it so everyone has the chance to enjoy decorating and whatnot.
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  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by iiTzSeb View Post
    No no, the playerbase 100% pretends like SE can't afford to buy more server hardware. Happens a LOT. There's even people on these forums pretending like there's no housing problems:



    A lot more of the XIV playerbase is in rampant denial than you'd think LMFAO
    The problem is that budget decisions aren't necessarily up to each studio. Even if Square Enix is a multi-billion dollar company, they have multiple projects they are distributing money to and each of the project leaders has to justify why they want money and how it's going to create profit for SE. Even if Yoshi-P requests another couple million for housing servers, the people who work in Finance (who don't work on FFXIV) will ask "what's the rate of return for this spend?" And the answer is "nothing" so the accountants will say "then you can't have it."
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  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by iiTzSeb View Post
    The problem with XIV housing before lottery was ALWAYS that there simply was not enough. The problem AFTER lottery is still: there is not enough
    No one said lottery would solve the housing shortage. It was designed to mitigate issues with housing purchasing such as standing at a placard for 12-24 hours clicking against hundreds of other players (RMT bots, legit players botting, legit players clicking)

    It solved that √

    If anyone had the expectation that lottery would solve the housing shortage, they will going to be disappointed. It mitigated the housing shortage by adding more plots.
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    Last edited by dspguy; 05-07-2022 at 04:34 AM.

  10. #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by dspguy View Post
    No one said lottery would solve the housing shortage. It was designed to mitigate issues with housing purchasing such as standing at a placard for 12-24 hours clicking against hundreds of other players (RMT bots, legit players botting, legit players clicking)

    It solved that √

    If anyone had the expectation that lottery would solve the housing shortage, they will going to be disappointed. It mitigated the housing shortage by adding more plots.
    it didn't even do that.

    It added more plots overall, but for private buyers we went from [60 * 24 * 4 = 5760] available to private buyers to [60 * 6 * 5 = 1800] the total number of private plots went down. Not to mention, now more people are going to be participating in the lottery because now there is no required time sink for getting a house. So if anything they have done the exact opposite of mitigating this issue, they have made private housing impossible.
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