New lottery system will only get worse from here and solves no REAL issues.

[Yodada]

it didn't even do that.

It added more plots overall, but for private buyers we went from [60 * 24 * 4 = 5760] available to private buyers to [60 * 6 * 5 = 1800] the total number of private plots went down. Not to mention, now more people are going to be participating in the lottery because now there is no required time sink for getting a house. So if anything they have done the exact opposite of mitigating this issue, they have made private housing impossible.

Maybe the Devs saw that Private Housing got out of hand with 70% spread over all Servers in comparison to FC Housing and they now try to adjust the numbers a little bit in favour of FCs (which were the initial target audience for Housing) before the sissies flooded the OF "but mah Private House, I want one too".

[Jojoya]

Maybe the Devs saw that Private Housing got out of hand with 70% spread over all Servers in comparison to FC Housing and they now try to adjust the numbers a little bit in favour of FCs (which were the initial target audience for Housing) before the sissies flooded the OF "but mah Private House, I want one too".

The reason housing is 70% personal is because FC demand is lower than some like to claim.

Setting aside 75% of the new housing for FCs was way out of line compared to the real demand. There's a reason why most of the FC wards had half or more of their plots with no entries at all in the first lottery period - that much demand does not exist among FCs. What's even worse is when you wander around and see the number of the claimed plots owned by FCs that now have fewer than 4 members. The FC Master got their house for personal use - no need to keep the superfluous members in the FC anymore.

SE might have made FCs the target audience for houses but that doesn't reflect where the majority of interest actually lies. Most players could care less about FC housing because they do not benefit - unless they're running the FC, of course. The FC Master reserve access to the house features for themselves and sometimes their officers, leaving their members without access to the content other than the ability to visit the house. That increases the demand for personal houses because that's the only way the average FC member is able to engage with the content.

By the way, bad choice of throwaway character to post on if you're trying to get people to take your argument seriously. The profiles for your FC and its members plus a visit to your FC house says much about why it's a problem to prioritize FCs

[Yodada]

The reason housing is 70% personal is because FC demand is lower than some like to claim.

Setting aside 75% of the new housing for FCs was way out of line compared to the real demand. There's a reason why most of the FC wards had half or more of their plots with no entries at all in the first lottery period - that much demand does not exist among FCs. What's even worse is when you wander around and see the number of the claimed plots owned by FCs that now have fewer than 4 members. The FC Master got their house for personal use - no need to keep the superfluous members in the FC anymore.

SE might have made FCs the target audience for houses but that doesn't reflect where the majority of interest actually lies. Most players could care less about FC housing because they do not benefit - unless they're running the FC, of course. The FC Master reserve access to the house features for themselves and sometimes their officers, leaving their members without access to the content other than the ability to visit the house. That increases the demand for personal houses because that's the only way the average FC member is able to engage with the content.

By the way, bad choice of throwaway character to post on if you're trying to get people to take your argument seriously. The profiles for your FC and its members plus a visit to your FC house says much about why it's a problem to prioritize FCs

Do you really think FCs are going for small Plots first? If so. Jeez are you naive. No one cares about small Houses. Everyone wants to have a shot on Ls first then Ms and afterwards if they are still small left in the dust we can discuss about demand of FCs and Private.

[Besame]

Do you really think FCs are going for small Plots first? If so. Jeez are you naive. No one cares about small Houses. Everyone wants to have a shot on Ls first then Ms and afterwards if they are still small left in the dust we can discuss about demand of FCs and Private.

I am happy with my small FC. I have never even looked around nor attempted to find a bigger one. It has the same workshop to make and send subs/ships, all the same space to have foods and ammenities that any house/FC has. The main and most important perk is not having to be exposed to ridiculously immature, toxic and annoying people in big cites like Limsa while waiting or crafting

[Big_Bap]

The reason housing is 70% personal is because FC demand is lower than some like to claim.

Let's disregard how there are more characters than Free Companies. Typical Jojoya logic right here, guess you are still drinking the koolaid after all.

[Themarvin]

Well the system is better than before and yes it solves no things for housing speculants and resellers of FC's, which is great, also people dont need to bot all day long or click all day long.

[dspguy]

it didn't even do that.

It added more plots overall, but for private buyers we went from [60 * 24 * 4 = 5760] available to private buyers to [60 * 6 * 5 = 1800] the total number of private plots went down. Not to mention, now more people are going to be participating in the lottery because now there is no required time sink for getting a house. So if anything they have done the exact opposite of mitigating this issue, they have made private housing impossible.

I'd disagree. It clearly solved the "stand at a placard for 12-24 hours against bots." Just because it didn't solve things they way you preferred, doesn't mean it didn't solve it.

How many people had to spam a placard for 12-24 hours?

Zero.

[DeNada]

Also, the reason why there are so few private plots right now is due to the 18/6 FC to private plots allocation, and not the lottery system.

Please do not conflate the two together and somehow conclude that lottery system is the cause of the number of private plots going down as it is misleading, thank you.

[Solarra]

Housing in this game has been one long disappointment for me. The original group of friends I joined with back in HW all left due to the fact that housing was heavily advertised as a feature but actually getting one for our FC proved impossible. By the time I finally did manage to snag one, they'd all moved on to other games and not one of them came back.

Many band aids later and we're still in a position where there is an acute shortage. I really thought the Firmament might put instanced housing alongside the present ward system, but no, we just got more of the same.

The lottery has been a complete disaster from the outset and while it makes competing for the extremely limited number of houses fairer, it does not solve the underlying issues.
The Island Sanctuary just adds insult to injury. Apparently they do have the resources to give everyone a private instance, but they've made one that won't give us housing (the thing most players actually wanted).

I really do not understand the devs at this point. They know what players want but for reasons I cannot fathom they seem determined not to provide it.

[Eraden]

As I have said before, the Lottery was not intended to fix anything other than making sure there was fair access for all. The distribution of housing in terms of FC vs personal, as well as the paucity of housing in the first place, is entirely on the developers and has nothing to do with the Lottery system.