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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    How does giving the example that the majority of the time I am rescued, It is either done maliciously, ignorantly, or unneeded weaken the argument for saying I don't want OTHER people deciding where I stand or at least I'd like the option to refuse? If I wanted other people to play the game for me I wouldn't play and if I wanted to play a griefing game I'd play one with worldwide PVP.
    You're doing it again. Like quite literally the exact same thing I just mentioned. You are pretexting your true feelings [argument] about the skill with what is anecdotal evidence at best. What you truly dislike about Rescue is that another player can change your position against your will.

    If you were to just say, "I dislike recue because I don't want another player to dictate my position for me."

    That is fine. Really fine. It's a strong argument all on its own, and leaves little room for rebuttal because you're just stating an opinion. When you add - or worse - pretext that argument with a statement that invites an air of skepticism due to validity, then peeps like me come in and say BS, and contest your argument with anecdotal evidence of our own. IOW, it weakens your argument. I don't find your claim to be true in even the slightest, and that is only because I have not encountered it myself. Like ever. I have never witnessed a healer using Rescue maliciously unless friends were trolling each other in braindead content. In content that matters, not at all. Even among friends.
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    Last edited by Gemina; 05-04-2022 at 02:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    You're doing it again. Like quite literally the exact same thing I just mentioned. You are pretexting your true feelings [argument] about the skill with what is anecdotal evidence at best. What you truly dislike about Rescue is that another player can change your position against your will.

    If you were to just say, "I dislike recue because I don't want another player to dictate my position for me."

    That is fine. Really fine. It's a strong argument all on its own, and leaves little room for rebuttal because you're just stating an opinion. When you add - or worse - pretext that argument with a statement that invites an air of skepticism due to validity, then peeps like me come in and say BS, and contest your argument with anecdotal evidence of our own. IOW, it weakens your argument. I don't find your claim to be true in even the slightest, and that is only because I have not encountered it myself. Like ever. I have never witnessed a healer using Rescue maliciously unless friends were trolling each other in braindead content. In content that matters, not at all. Even among friends.
    So you're going to tell me what I really mean now and how to express myself? ... the irony is absolutely staggering.


    And we're going to add on "it never happens because I've never seen it". Terrific.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    By that logic healers shouldn't heal at all, they are forcing heals onto the poor other players without consent! And what with the ranged dps buff, thanks i want to decide on my own how fast i go and how much damage i take!
    When you ask a healer to join you.. what do you think you're asking for?

    When you queue with a DPS.. what is their role description?


    While you possibly could be posing an actual logical leap you made in your mind where you incorrectly correlated "I don't want other people to play for me or affect my inputted decisions" with "I don't want other people to affect the game I'm playing in any way at all" it SOUNDS like you're just spouting irrational gobbledygook to make a perfectly reasonable ask into a ridiculous one.
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    Last edited by Krotoan; 05-04-2022 at 02:58 PM.
    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    So you're going to tell me what I really mean now and how to express myself? ... the irony is absolutely staggering.


    And we're going to add on "it never happens because I've never seen it". Terrific.
    I'm not telling you anything. I'm only pointing out what you're saying yourself. If you actually take a step back and listen to yourself, what I'm trying to tell might start sinking in. Regardless of what you might think, and your own experiences, Rescue was not put into the game to ruin your day.

    Also, I never said that what you claim never happens because I never experienced it. I said I don't find your claim to be true, because I've never experienced it. And how can I? If I never experienced a healer using Rescue maliciously, then how on Earth could I possibly conclude that it's true? At best, I can believe you. And I don't. I think a healer probably had best intentions, you died anyway, and now you think Rescue is a horrible skill and needs to be deleted.

    What I KNOW actually happens with Rescue is healers using it unsuccessfully i.e. the players still takes damage or dies. In these cases, the healer is just trying to help, because you're in the wrong spot, or greeding and they are unaware you are.
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