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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    Well, you're not disagreeing with me. I'm not the one calling SGE a "gimped damage dealer." SGE is SGE, and I like it "regardless of how people categorize the class." Oh, and you may have also missed the words "seems more like" in my post, so read it again.
    ALL healers are gimped damage dealers. This is not exclusive to SGE. That you fail to realize how all four do far more damage dealing than they do healing shows a lack of understanding of how healers function and play in this game. In all content. The damage-to-healing ratio skew is not exclusive to Savage/Ultimate. That it’s so low in those pieces of content speaks volumes to how much you are doing in anything below it. Considering healers are barely needed for things like dungeons and Extremes, that should tell you all you need to know.

    Could be, but I haven't played AST since before Shadowbringers, and I have played WHM recently, so that was my point of reference.
    For reference, WHM is the healer that tends to do the least amount of healing compared to its direct counterpart, AST. With SCH/SGE, it also prefers not to heal—surprisingly, SGE does more of the overall healing compared to a WHM despite being advertised as the “DPS healer”. Keep in mind that this doesn’t mean that any decent SGE is still casting Dosis III 80% or more of the time.

    All four healers play like DPS, but do significantly less damage than a DPS job, and have a far less interesting “rotation”. The latter is what healers are now advocating to change, since we won’t get the increased healing output that we spent the last couple years asking for.

    Sigh. Is it just me, or does anyone else think this last statement is inappropriate and makes Banriikku look bad?
    I’m afraid that it is just you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    Honestly, that's a problem for you, fine, acknowledged, but it isn't for me.
    As long as I'm having fun playing the game, it doesn't matter that I can DPS a bit along with healing and shielding.
    I find it way more fun than the tanking, ranged DPS, and melee DPS I've done.
    You aren’t reading what Rolder50 said: they said that there is hardly any content that requires a healer to use their full healing kit. Things like Lilybell, Seraph, Macrocosmos, and Pneuma are overkill more often than not in content. That in an of itself is one of the problems with healers: the developer give us all these shiny new healing tools, but they don’t give us content to make use of them. Or, the content they do give, is basically just for the 1% (Ultimate).

    No one here is saying that they don’t like DPSing as a healer. They’re complaining that that is ALL healer seem to do anymore. The majority of the time, that is what we are doing. And our DPS “rotation” is boring. So we want it to change.
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    Last edited by HyoMinPark; 05-03-2022 at 10:17 AM.