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    QooEr's Avatar
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    Qoo Er
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Personally I'd like if the devs added a status ailment that hit healers that could "lock" oGCDs, forcing only GCD healing for a bit.
    it exists, its used in potd. its called amnesia


    its a huge bummer that thers so many status effects and the devs use them almost never. i very much would prefer if failing mechanics didnt do any damage at all but instead gave debuffs, and instead the unavoidable damage was vastly increased in frequency and potency.
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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Exodus
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    Quote Originally Posted by QooEr View Post
    it exists, its used in potd. its called amnesia


    its a huge bummer that thers so many status effects and the devs use them almost never. i very much would prefer if failing mechanics didnt do any damage at all but instead gave debuffs, and instead the unavoidable damage was vastly increased in frequency and potency.
    Gods yes, I'd love that so much. And Amnesia definitely needs to be used more in raids. I'm actually surprised they never used it in E12 considering the fight was pretty much "erasing memories." I know it was just a specific individual's, but having it effect the party would have been pretty cool, especially if it was during the add phase (and during a part of final phase).
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    Shurrikhan's Avatar
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    Tani Shirai
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Gods yes, I'd love that so much. And Amnesia definitely needs to be used more in raids. I'm actually surprised they never used it in E12 considering the fight was pretty much "erasing memories." I know it was just a specific individual's, but having it effect the party would have been pretty cool, especially if it was during the add phase (and during a part of final phase).
    For that not to feel pretty badly, too, though, you'd have to have enough outgoing damage to actually deplete most of your oGCDs before the amnesia phase, such that you're getting some cooling value over said phase. That in itself would be quite a turn from the norm.

    Getting a debuff whereby just your next oGCD cast gets locked out, or is placed on an extended (flat, proportionate, or combination of both) recast time, could also be interesting.
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    Silver Strider
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Gods yes, I'd love that so much. And Amnesia definitely needs to be used more in raids. I'm actually surprised they never used it in E12 considering the fight was pretty much "erasing memories." I know it was just a specific individual's, but having it effect the party would have been pretty cool, especially if it was during the add phase (and during a part of final phase).
    Amnesia: exists
    WHM: BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD LILY
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver-Strider View Post
    Amnesia: exists
    WHM: BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD LILY
    With stuff like P3S Macrocosmos being a thing, I don't mind WHM having a rare free-healing advantage relative to other healers (especially if one can shuffle their oGCD CDs partly around Amnesia phases).
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    Shiru Elysia
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Personally I'd like if the devs added a status ailment that hit healers that could "lock" oGCDs, forcing only GCD healing for a bit. That'd probably spice things up a bit and be a hell of a lot more fun for the healing community. Because let's face it, we healers are addicted to the frantic chaos of trying to keep people alive while everything is burning down around us (we're masochists like that).
    It depends how it works.
    Because if you can't use it during the effect, but still can before...

    AST could macrocosm/Horscope/preshield with neutral sect/CU or CO for the regen/Earthly Star
    SCH could use mitigation such as Fey Illumination, Soil, Expediant,Seraph, preactivate emergency tactics
    SGE could panhaima, physis, kerachole, still use pneuma+Zoe...

    It would require planning but it's not in WHM favor "THAT" much

    oGCD have timer that last from 10 to 30s
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    Xynnel Valeroyant
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    Lets put it this way:
    1. Pick a solo duty where you play as yourself.
    2. Play any one of the 4 healers.
    3. Complete the duty.

    If you think that completing said duty is tedious as a healer, congratulations you have now discovered what it feels like to be a veteran healer. That is legit what it feels like when we get good at our job. Yes, there is more healing involved, but frankly? Just healing yourself reflects how it feels (pop a HoT/hit a button you're back to full).
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    I'm tired of being told to wait for post-patches and expansions for fixes and increased healing requirements that are never coming. Healers are not fun in all forms of content like all jobs should be, they're replaced by tanks and dps due to low healing requirements and their dps kit is small for 0 reason, when in the past we had more options and handled things just fine. I refuse to play healer in roulette come DT. I refuse to heal EXs, I refuse to go into Savage, and I am boycotting Ultimate.

    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

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    Alarasong Elaha
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    Really, the only reason more content isn't solo healed is because they specifically design mechanics that do things like target tanks and healers, or in P4S Part 1, required 2 healers in order to soak things like role specific towers. Like, DSR can be solo healed but there is something like a 2/7 chance I think it was you just wipe to a specific mechanic that targets healers.
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    Grim Gaelasch
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    Would a system where most healing skills are GCDs and most support/damaging skills are oGCDs invert the amount of Nuke spam we currently have? Or would it not be enough to play around the lack of constant damaging?
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    Pikalovr The-shocking
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrimGale View Post
    Would a system where most healing skills are GCDs and most support/damaging skills are oGCDs invert the amount of Nuke spam we currently have? Or would it not be enough to play around the lack of constant damaging?
    it'd be a bandaid fix at best cause every oGCD we have could be purely utility or DPS based and we'd still mostly spam our one DPS button tbh the main issue is fight design and not having need for any real utility stuff like esuna and sleep in between heal checks
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