Rescue Needs to GO

[NotReallyMistral]

The idea that you should have ANY control over another persons character needs to go away. There should be a way for us to turn it off so that healers can not pull us at any point. We should know the dungeon well enough or know enough to get out of the way. But (and I know what they will say "I pulled you to save you from the AOE") No...You pulled me to my death, you interrupted my series of abilities, you turned the creature right towards the party and most of all....brought the aggro.....right towards everyone. So do us all a favor. And for those of you that are using rescue as a "get even" tool. It is a highly reportable offense and people's accounts have been suspended over it. Remember. If you can pull a character than why can't tanks turn off stance.

Can't tell if it's a troll post or not but in the case it isn't, I'm gonna vote for no. And I only recently played healer too. I'm normally a melee dps so I know when to greed and where to stand...when I know the fight. Yes, it gets annoying if you get pulled by a rescue but honestly, even before I played healer, I understand its uses. What I don't understand is why there is a lag between the cast and the pull which is what has killed so many people I'm assuming. But when it's needed, it's usually by the jobs that wants to greed and have no backstep skill or, specially in the case of alliance raids where I found more uses for it, when people can be woefully unaware of their own doom from either lack of knowledge of the fight or expect not to die from a mechanic. Also, Rescue is at 30y range, farther than backsteps and other dashes (iirc the closes is sage and blm movement skills which are 25y but they don't really usually require rescue) so it still has more uses than you think. I read through some of the comments and honestly, I didn't even realize you can rescue a body to rez - might try that at some point.

But yeah, long story short, let's just keep Rescue, make it instacast and pull and maybe put some defensive buff on it, maybe less people would die mid-pull that way.

[VerdeLuck]

The reason why people want it to stay in the game has less to do with trolling people and more because its one of the few tools healers have that actually takes thought to use.

And yes, before you type up an AsKsuALLY it does take some skill to use Rescue properly. It LAGS. I even said in my post it does. Time it wrong the idiot who stood in red is still going to get hit.

I've already given you examples how Rescue can be used as is intended. We already explained why it CANNOT have an opt out. And no one wants ANOTHER tool from healers to be removed because of X reason.

It absolutely can have an opt out, if everyone would opt out of being moved by a random healer if it were offered, doesn't that say something about the skill? That it's really not needed or fun except for the person who's using it?
It's not fun to have control taken away from you, especially when it's taken away by another player and the decision is made entirely by someone else with no input by yourself.
If you were to have a toggle it would still let you use it in premade groups if you wanted to for that value, that would still be there. You just wouldn't be able to decide and micromanage where other people can stand.

And it's not like it even matters if someone messes up and dies, that's part of the game, that's how you learn to play. Besides the fact that everyone stands in mechanics and dies a few times learning, nothing in the game outside of Extreme and Savage content actually punishes the entire group for one player failing, all it does is kill the player who failed the mechanic. the level of micromanaging and trying to boss other players around just seems entirely unneeded. Let them play their own characters man, you don't have to be a control freak and make them do exactly what you want.

[Grimoire-M]

I see now why you're so determined for it to stay in the game and not have the ability for people to say no to it or not be pulled if they don't want to be.

Yeah, I too want to clear fights and not have to pry your corpse off the floor.

You're mad because we're right. If you want to get the skill gone, be the change you want to see in the world and start Troll Rescuing people on cooldown. You'll see who gets removed first.

In the meantime, I'll be using Shukuchi and Shadeshift to prevent my greedy ass from wiping my static's last week of reclears while getting rescued out of LB3 every single fight. Because unlike you, I am capable of recognizing who's fallible when shit hits the fan, and appreciating the humor and effort of those who fix it.

[ty_taurus]

I see now why you're so determined for it to stay in the game and not have the ability for people to say no to it or not be pulled if they don't want to be.

But how come I don't get a say in whether or not we wipe due to your mess up?

[Lieri]

You only rescue sprouts or players in savage/ultimate levels. Anything in between usually results in drama. People dont like downtime smh.

[VerdeLuck]

Yeah, I too want to clear fights and not have to pry your corpse off the floor.

You're mad because we're right. If you want to get the skill gone, be the change you want to see in the world and start Troll Rescuing people on cooldown. You'll see who gets removed first.

In the meantime, I'll be using Shukuchi and Shadeshift to prevent my greedy ass from wiping my static's last week of reclears while getting rescued out of LB3 every single fight. Because unlike you, I am capable of recognizing who's fallible when shit hits the fan, and appreciating the humor and effort of those who fix it.

I still stand by my points that it does more harm than good when allowed to be used to troll random players for a laugh. A toggle to allow it to only be used on you by your friends or FC members would be greatly appreciated and I hope the devs add something similar. Other games such as Dota 2 have added "disable help" options to let players decide if they want to open themselves up to players using abilities that may take control from them and open themselves up to abuse.
I think it's a great idea personally and it doesn't really have a downside in my opinion. You can still do your strats with your static, and I don't have to be pulled into the Ancient Flare cast in Labyrinth by someone who saw a video and thinks it's funny.

There's absolutely no downside unless you really want to troll other people with it or are concerned with controlling other players' characters in casual content.
If people are turning it off because they don't want to be rescued then that really speaks volumes about the skill and what people want from it.

[VerdeLuck]

But how come I don't get a say in whether or not we wipe due to your mess up?

Content outside of Extremes, Savage, and Ultimates don't result in a wipe if one player fails. At the worst one player dies, and there's no enrage to risk not making either.

[ty_taurus]

You only rescue sprouts or players in savage/ultimate levels. Anything in between usually results in drama. People dont like downtime smh.

I actually never get to Rescue in Savage. What causes deaths in Savage is never stack mechanics, but specific positioning where someone needs to be somewhere that I can't be. Rescuing them to my side does not help resolve the mechanic. What good does Rescue do me in P2S limit cut or overflow? P3S FoF? Nados? P4S Act II? Act IV?

[Kabooa]

We already explained why it CANNOT have an opt out.

https://youtu.be/Sv95nBi7ulQ?t=74

An opt out punishes the target for a bad play but it was their choice to misuse it.

[MStowastiqVahlshdeh]

I have only had one bad rescue happen to me, the rest have been fortunate and kept me from K.O.