Rescue Needs to GO

[VerdeLuck]

Even without strat, a life saver is always welcome.

It's not always welcome, just like advice isn't always welcome when provided. Given the nature of it you can often do more harm than good, not to mention the people who use it to troll or cause problems. Even if it doesn't resolve in a death it's not always welcome to have someone yank your character away and put it somewhere else with no input or ability to counter from you.

Give us a way to disable it being used on us in settings or only by friends and it'll solve a lot of issues. You don't need to have it so you can yank random players around for fun.

[ty_taurus]

It's not always welcome, just like advice isn't always welcome when provided. Given the nature of it you can often do more harm than good, not to mention the people who use it to troll or cause problems. Even if it doesn't resolve in a death it's not always welcome to have someone yank your character away and put it somewhere else with no input or ability to counter from you.

Give us a way to disable it being used on us in settings or only by friends and it'll solve a lot of issues. You don't need to have it so you can yank random players around for fun.

Wait, are you telling me that in a video game, people can make mistakes? How dare they!

[Insertusernamehere]

I admit I killed people with it... they can get away from AOE mechanic efficiently with well placed Elusive Jump / Hissatsu: Yaten / Aetherial Manipulation etc.
My intention was helping them but I ended up killing them, I removed it from skill bar :3

[Allegor]

That's why I only reserve Rescue for "...you're not going to move, are you?" moments, like Amon, King Behemoth, etc. The idea of the target becoming immune while being dragged does sound nice though

[Haadrak]

I don't understand why it isn't instant. I don't understand why it isn't a teleport. I fail to see how either of these things would result in anything other than rescue becoming infinitely more user friendly and massively drop the number of posts about "OMG A HAELRE KILED ME BI USING RESKU, REMOVE NAO!!11!!!" Right now a lot of the time its a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation where someone is sitting in the bad and has made no moves to move out of it but still theoretically might move out of it. You now have the awkward moment where you think "do I rescue them to try to save them or do I hope they are actually paying attention and will get out of their own accord?" If you do cast rescue and they teleported away on their own, you might drag them back into the AoE. On the other hand if you wait till the last moment to make absolutely sure they are having a brainfade, then they die anyway because of the cast time. Why not make it an instant cast, teleport? The reason I also say teleport is because someone is standing ever so slightly downhill from you and you rescue them and...they go nowhere. It also means that if you do decide to rescue someone at the same time that they extricate themselves from a situation they still end in a safe spot rather than being dragged back through potentially lethal dangers. I also do not understand people complaining about trolling with rescue. If a healer wants to troll anyone but MT they can just stop healing you. They could accidentally on purpose run into AoEs themselves. You're never going to stop people from trolling by removing rescue. On my WAR I can just Shirk a DPS mid fight and turn off stance, should we remove tank stances and Shirk? wait a moment, I'VE GOT IT. What we'll do is make FFXIV a single player game and then you won't ever be trolled or harrassed by other players ever again...

[VerdeLuck]

I don't understand why it isn't instant. I don't understand why it isn't a teleport. I fail to see how either of these things would result in anything other than rescue becoming infinitely more user friendly and massively drop the number of posts about "OMG A HAELRE KILED ME BI USING RESKU, REMOVE NAO!!11!!!" Right now a lot of the time its a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation where someone is sitting in the bad and has made no moves to move out of it but still theoretically might move out of it. You now have the awkward moment where you think "do I rescue them to try to save them or do I hope they are actually paying attention and will get out of their own accord?" If you do cast rescue and they teleported away on their own, you might drag them back into the AoE. On the other hand if you wait till the last moment to make absolutely sure they are having a brainfade, then they die anyway because of the cast time. Why not make it an instant cast, teleport? The reason I also say teleport is because someone is standing ever so slightly downhill from you and you rescue them and...they go nowhere. It also means that if you do decide to rescue someone at the same time that they extricate themselves from a situation they still end in a safe spot rather than being dragged back through potentially lethal dangers. I also do not understand people complaining about trolling with rescue. If a healer wants to troll anyone but MT they can just stop healing you. They could accidentally on purpose run into AoEs themselves. You're never going to stop people from trolling by removing rescue. On my WAR I can just Shirk a DPS mid fight and turn off stance, should we remove tank stances and Shirk? wait a moment, I'VE GOT IT. What we'll do is make FFXIV a single player game and then you won't ever be trolled or harrassed by other players ever again...

Then don't rescue them at all, a single player dying isn't going to cause a wipe outside of Savage or certain Extreme fights. You don't need to be able to micromanage other players, they aren't there for you to boss around or place however you feel like they should stand.

[Grimoire-M]

Then don't rescue them at all, a single player dying isn't going to cause a wipe outside of Savage or certain Extreme fights. You don't need to be able to micromanage other players, they aren't there for you to boss around or place however you feel like they should stand.

Healer’s job is to keep people alive first. Micromanagement is an inherent part of the role due to the focus on multiple resources. You just don’t like it when it applies to more than your HP bar. Sometimes putting someone in the right spot does that for less cost than a res. Most times that mana matters.

I’ve saved more runs stopping a bad DPS from taking the stack marker away from the party and negating knockbacks than I can count. I’ve troll rescued four times total. All of them were DPS who instapulled as the main tank was typing out mechanics for the group.

[krislox]

I've had great healers using rescue on me more often than I get people trolling. I think a mark of an experienced healer is how successful they are when using Rescue.

[VerdeLuck]

I’ve troll rescued

I see now why you're so determined for it to stay in the game and not have the ability for people to say no to it or not be pulled if they don't want to be.

[ASkellington]

I see now why you're so determined for it to stay in the game and not have the ability for people to say no to it or not be pulled if they don't want to be.

The reason why people want it to stay in the game has less to do with trolling people and more because its one of the few tools healers have that actually takes thought to use.

And yes, before you type up an AsKsuALLY it does take some skill to use Rescue properly. It LAGS. I even said in my post it does. Time it wrong the idiot who stood in red is still going to get hit.

I've already given you examples how Rescue can be used as is intended. We already explained why it CANNOT have an opt out. And no one wants ANOTHER tool from healers to be removed because of X reason.