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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    That might be a side effect, but their real intention is to keep players subscribed as long as possible. We aren't at WoW levels of time gating, but that's exactly what it is. Time gating.
    erm, am i the only one who remembers that Yoshi-P explicitly told the community to take breaks from the game to avoid burnout? They have never built the game around the idea of *always* having something to do. they actively encourage players to play other games between patches
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason_Ashford View Post
    erm, am i the only one who remembers that Yoshi-P explicitly told the community to take breaks from the game to avoid burnout? They have never built the game around the idea of *always* having something to do. they actively encourage players to play other games between patches
    They should remove the sub then and make the game buy to play. There is no real purpose in it. It would be more consumer friendly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    They should remove the sub then and make the game buy to play. There is no real purpose in it. It would be more consumer friendly.
    sure, if you want Square Enix to add MTX into the game itself as the primary source of income, instead of just having a cash shop that has no connection to the game itself and a subscription based service.

    It's almost like you've never seen how bad MTX is in MMOs that are buy to play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason_Ashford View Post
    sure, if you want Square Enix to add MTX into the game itself as the primary source of income, instead of just having a cash shop that has no connection to the game itself and a subscription based service.

    It's almost like you've never seen how bad MTX is in MMOs that are buy to play.
    Don't like it don't buy it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Don't like it don't buy it.
    i hope you understand the irony when i tell you the same thing.

    If you don't like having to buy a sub, then don't. go play something else and quit trying to ruin the game for everyone else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason_Ashford View Post
    i hope you understand the irony when i tell you the same thing.

    If you don't like having to buy a sub, then don't. go play something else and quit trying to ruin the game for everyone else.
    Exactly how is anyone trying to ruin the game? Just because some people are satisfied with no lasting content, no quality content, little to no rewards to work towards, etc. in the game? There is nothing there to ruin in the first place, since nothing is being released.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Exactly how is anyone trying to ruin the game? Just because some people are satisfied with no lasting content, no quality content, little to no rewards to work towards, etc. in the game? There is nothing there to ruin in the first place, since nothing is being released.
    *points to the hundreds of achievements and titles and other items locked behind them*
    Nothing to work towards...right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Exactly how is anyone trying to ruin the game? Just because some people are satisfied with no lasting content, no quality content, little to no rewards to work towards, etc. in the game? There is nothing there to ruin in the first place, since nothing is being released.
    we have plenty of content. they just don't make content that forces you to participate for the entire 4 months between patches. so sorry that, that doesn't adhere to your standards of what an MMO should do, but the majority of players are fine with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason_Ashford View Post
    i hope you understand the irony when i tell you the same thing.

    If you don't like having to buy a sub, then don't. go play something else and quit trying to ruin the game for everyone else.
    They're a troll, do not feed it. Just put them on ignore and go on with your day, else you'll go insane.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    They're a troll, do not feed it. Just put them on ignore and go on with your day, else you'll go insane.
    Oh, yes! I'm a troll! Of course! That is sarcasm, by the way.

    When I put a well thought out post, making a suggestion for feedback, I get little to no replies discussing the content of my post, no I get told it's "unhealthy" to play one game. I even made a point to speak against predatory retention practices, but I suppose nobody actually read my post to begin with..

    No, no, we should be happy! You want the reality? We are not the ones "ruining" this game.
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